Re: [POC] FETCH limited by bytes.

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От Corey Huinker
Тема Re: [POC] FETCH limited by bytes.
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Ответ на Re: [POC] FETCH limited by bytes.  (Kyotaro HORIGUCHI <horiguchi.kyotaro@lab.ntt.co.jp>)
Ответы Re: [POC] FETCH limited by bytes.  (Kyotaro HORIGUCHI <horiguchi.kyotaro@lab.ntt.co.jp>)
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Last year I was working on a patch to postgres_fdw where the fetch_size could be set at the table level and the server level.

I was able to get the settings parsed and they would show up in pg_foreign_table and pg_foreign_servers. Unfortunately, I'm not very familiar with how foreign data wrappers work, so I wasn't able to figure out how to get these custom values passed from the PgFdwRelationInfo struct into the query's PgFdwScanState struct.

I bring this up only because it might be a simpler solution, in that the table designer could set the fetch size very high for narrow tables, and lower or default for wider tables. It's also a very clean syntax, just another option on the table and/or server creation.

My incomplete patch is attached.



On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 4:24 AM, Kyotaro HORIGUCHI <horiguchi.kyotaro@lab.ntt.co.jp> wrote:
Thank you for the comment.

The automatic way to determin the fetch_size looks become too
much for the purpose. An example of non-automatic way is a new
foreign table option like 'fetch_size' but this exposes the
inside too much... Which do you think is preferable?

Thu, 22 Jan 2015 11:17:52 -0500, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote in <24503.1421943472@sss.pgh.pa.us>
> Kyotaro HORIGUCHI <horiguchi.kyotaro@lab.ntt.co.jp> writes:
> > Hello, as the discuttion on async fetching on postgres_fdw, FETCH
> > with data-size limitation would be useful to get memory usage
> > stability of postgres_fdw.
>
> > Is such a feature and syntax could be allowed to be added?
>
> This seems like a lot of work, and frankly an incredibly ugly API,
> for a benefit that is entirely hypothetical.  Have you got numbers
> showing any actual performance win for postgres_fdw?

The API is a rush work to make the path for the new parameter
(but, yes, I did too much for the purpose that use from
postgres_fdw..)  and it can be any saner syntax but it's not the
time to do so yet.

The data-size limitation, any size to limit, would give
significant gain especially for small sized rows.

This patch began from the fact that it runs about twice faster
when fetch size = 10000 than 100.

http://www.postgresql.org/message-id/20150116.171849.109146500.horiguchi.kyotaro@lab.ntt.co.jp

I took exec times to get 1M rows from localhost via postgres_fdw
and it showed the following numbers.

=# SELECT a from ft1;
fetch_size,   avg row size(*1),   time,   alloced_mem/fetch(Mbytes)(*1)
(local)                            0.75s
100            60                  6.2s       6000 (0.006)
10000          60                  2.7s     600000 (0.6  )
33333          60                  2.2s    1999980 (2.0  )
66666          60                  2.4s    3999960 (4.0  )

=# SELECT a, b, c from ft1;
fetch_size,   avg row size(*1),   time,   alloced_mem/fetch(Mbytes)(*1)
(local)                            0.8s
100           204                 12  s      20400 (0.02 )
1000          204                 10  s     204000 (0.2  )
10000         204                  5.8s    2040000 (2    )
20000         204                  5.9s    4080000 (4    )

=# SELECT a, b, d from ft1;
fetch_size,   avg row size(*1),   time,   alloced_mem/fetch(Mbytes)(*1)
(local)                            0.8s
100          1356                 17  s     135600 (0.136)
1000         1356                 15  s    1356000 (1.356)
1475         1356                 13  s    2000100 (2.0  )
2950         1356                 13  s    4000200 (4.0  )

The definitions of the environment are the following.

CREATE SERVER sv1 FOREIGN DATA WRAPPER postgres_fdw OPTIONS (host 'localhost', dbname 'postgres');
CREATE USER MAPPING FOR PUBLIC SERVER sv1;
CREATE TABLE lt1 (a int, b timestamp, c text, d text);
CREATE FOREIGN TABLE ft1 (a int, b timestamp, c text, d text) SERVER sv1 OPTIONS (table_name 'lt1');
INSERT INTO lt1 (SELECT a, now(), repeat('x', 128), repeat('x', 1280) FROM generate_series(0, 999999) a);

The "avg row size" is alloced_mem/fetch_size and the alloced_mem
is the sum of HeapTuple[fetch_size] and (HEAPTUPLESIZE +
tup->t_len) for all stored tuples in the receiver side,
fetch_more_data() in postgres_fdw.

They are about 50% gain for the smaller tuple size and 25% for
the larger. They looks to be optimal at where alloced_mem is
around 2MB by the reason unknown to me. Anyway the difference
seems to be significant.

> Even if we wanted to do something like this, I strongly object to
> measuring size by heap_compute_data_size.  That's not a number that users
> would normally have any direct knowledge of; nor does it have anything
> at all to do with the claimed use-case, where what you'd really need to
> measure is bytes transmitted down the wire.  (The difference is not small:
> for instance, toasted values would likely still be toasted at the point
> where you're measuring.)

Sure. Finally, the attached patch #1 which does the following
things.

 - Sender limits the number of tuples using the sum of the net
   length of the column values to be sent, not including protocol
   overhead. It is calculated in the added function
   slot_compute_attr_size(), using raw length for compressed
   values.

 - postgres_fdw calculates fetch limit bytes by the following
   formula,

   MAX_FETCH_MEM - MAX_FETCH_SIZE * (estimated overhead per tuple);

The result of the patch is as follows. MAX_FETCH_MEM = 2MiB and
MAX_FETCH_SIZE = 30000.

fetch_size,   avg row size(*1),   time,   max alloced_mem/fetch(Mbytes)
(auto)         60                  2.4s   1080000 ( 1.08)
(auto)        204                  7.3s    536400 ( 0.54)
(auto)       1356                 15  s    430236 ( 0.43)

This is meaningfully fast but the patch looks too big and the
meaning of the new parameter is hard to understand..:(


On the other hand the cause of the displacements of alloced_mem
shown above is per-tuple overhead, the sum of which is unknown
before execution.  The second patch makes FETCH accept the tuple
overhead bytes. The result seems pretty good, but I think this
might be too spcialized to this usage.

MAX_FETCH_SIZE = 30000 and MAX_FETCH_MEM = 2MiB,
max_fetch_size,   avg row size(*1),   time,   max alloced_mem/fetch(MiBytes)
30000             60                  2.3s   1080000 ( 1.0)
 9932            204                  5.7s   1787760 ( 1.7)
 1376           1356                 13  s   1847484 ( 1.8)

MAX_FETCH_SIZE = 25000 and MAX_FETCH_MEM = 1MiB,
max_fetch_size,   avg row size(*1),   time,   max alloced_mem/fetch(MiBytes)
25000             60                  2.4s    900000 ( 0.86)
 4358            204                  6.6s    816840 ( 0.78)
  634           1356                 16  s    844488 ( 0.81)

MAX_FETCH_SIZE = 10000 and MAX_FETCH_MEM = 0.5MiB,
max_fetch_size,   avg row size(*1),   time,   max alloced_mem/fetch(MiBytes)
10000             60                  2.8s    360000 ( 0.35)
 2376            204                  7.8s    427680 ( 0.41)
  332           1356                 17  s    442224 ( 0.42)

regards,

--
Kyotaro Horiguchi
NTT Open Source Software Center


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