Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM`

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Daniel Gustafsson
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Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM`
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B0918797-FCC8-4E81-8CD7-0AFC8E798830@yesql.se
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Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Gabriele Bartolini <gabriele.bartolini@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Gabriele Bartolini <gabriele.bartolini@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Isaac Morland <isaac.morland@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Gabriele Bartolini <gabriele.bartolini@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Gabriele Bartolini <gabriele.bartolini@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Daniel Gustafsson <daniel@yesql.se>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Gabriele Bartolini <gabriele.bartolini@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Greg Sabino Mullane <htamfids@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Gabriele Bartolini <gabriele.bartolini@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` "Joel Jacobson" <joel@compiler.org>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Gabriele Bartolini <gabriele.bartolini@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` "Joel Jacobson" <joel@compiler.org>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Maciek Sakrejda <m.sakrejda@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Daniel Gustafsson <daniel@yesql.se>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Jelte Fennema-Nio <postgres@jeltef.nl>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Daniel Gustafsson <daniel@yesql.se>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Daniel Gustafsson <daniel@yesql.se>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Jelte Fennema-Nio <postgres@jeltef.nl>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Maciek Sakrejda <m.sakrejda@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Maciek Sakrejda <m.sakrejda@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Michael Banck <mbanck@gmx.net>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Daniel Gustafsson <daniel@yesql.se>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Jelte Fennema-Nio <postgres@jeltef.nl>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Jelte Fennema-Nio <postgres@jeltef.nl>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Daniel Gustafsson <daniel@yesql.se>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Greg Sabino Mullane <htamfids@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` walther@technowledgy.de
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Greg Sabino Mullane <htamfids@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Jelte Fennema-Nio <postgres@jeltef.nl>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Michael Banck <mbanck@gmx.net>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Robert Treat <rob@xzilla.net>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Joe Conway <mail@joeconway.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Jelte Fennema-Nio <postgres@jeltef.nl>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Jelte Fennema-Nio <postgres@jeltef.nl>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Daniel Gustafsson <daniel@yesql.se>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Abhijit Menon-Sen <ams@toroid.org>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Jelte Fennema-Nio <postgres@jeltef.nl>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Robert Treat <rob@xzilla.net>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Greg Sabino Mullane <htamfids@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Jelte Fennema-Nio <postgres@jeltef.nl>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` "David G. Johnston" <david.g.johnston@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Joe Conway <mail@joeconway.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Gabriele Bartolini <gabriele.bartolini@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Álvaro Hernández <aht@ongres.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Gabriele Bartolini <gabriele.bartolini@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Martín Marqués <martin.marques@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Gabriele Bartolini <gabriele.bartolini@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Isaac Morland <isaac.morland@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Martín Marqués <martin.marques@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` "David G. Johnston" <david.g.johnston@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Peter Eisentraut <peter@eisentraut.org>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Gabriele Bartolini <gabriele.bartolini@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Peter Eisentraut <peter@eisentraut.org>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Jelte Fennema-Nio <postgres@jeltef.nl>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Peter Eisentraut <peter@eisentraut.org>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Jelte Fennema-Nio <postgres@jeltef.nl>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Gabriele Bartolini <gabriele.bartolini@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Jelte Fennema-Nio <postgres@jeltef.nl>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` "Euler Taveira" <euler@eulerto.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` "David G. Johnston" <david.g.johnston@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` "David G. Johnston" <david.g.johnston@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Gabriele Bartolini <gabriele.bartolini@enterprisedb.com>
> On 18 Mar 2024, at 16:34, Magnus Hagander  wrote:
> 
> On Mon, Mar 18, 2024 at 2:09 PM Daniel Gustafsson  wrote:
>> 
>>> On 18 Mar 2024, at 13:57, Robert Haas  wrote:
>> 
>>> my proposal is something like this, taking a
>>> bunch of text from Jelte's patch and some inspiration from Magnus's
>>> earlier remarks:
>> 
>> I still think any wording should clearly mention that settings in the file are
>> still applied.  The proposed wording says to implicitly but to avoid confusion
>> I think it should be explicit.
> 
> I haven't kept up with the thread, but in general I'd prefer it to
> actually turn off parsing the file as well. I think just turning off
> the ability to change it -- including the ability to *revert* changes
> that were made to it before -- is going to be confusing.

Wouldn't that break pgBackrest which IIRC write to .auto.conf directly
without using ALTER SYSTEM?

> But, if we have decided it shouldn't do that, then IMHO we should
> consider naming it maybe enable_alter_system_command instead -- since
> we're only disabling the alter system command, not the actual feature
> in total.

Good point.

--
Daniel Gustafsson



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