Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM`

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Daniel Gustafsson
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Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM`
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Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Gabriele Bartolini <gabriele.bartolini@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Gabriele Bartolini <gabriele.bartolini@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Isaac Morland <isaac.morland@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Gabriele Bartolini <gabriele.bartolini@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Gabriele Bartolini <gabriele.bartolini@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Daniel Gustafsson <daniel@yesql.se>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Gabriele Bartolini <gabriele.bartolini@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Greg Sabino Mullane <htamfids@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Gabriele Bartolini <gabriele.bartolini@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` "Joel Jacobson" <joel@compiler.org>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Gabriele Bartolini <gabriele.bartolini@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` "Joel Jacobson" <joel@compiler.org>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Maciek Sakrejda <m.sakrejda@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Daniel Gustafsson <daniel@yesql.se>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Jelte Fennema-Nio <postgres@jeltef.nl>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Daniel Gustafsson <daniel@yesql.se>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Daniel Gustafsson <daniel@yesql.se>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Jelte Fennema-Nio <postgres@jeltef.nl>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Maciek Sakrejda <m.sakrejda@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Maciek Sakrejda <m.sakrejda@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Michael Banck <mbanck@gmx.net>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Daniel Gustafsson <daniel@yesql.se>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Jelte Fennema-Nio <postgres@jeltef.nl>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Jelte Fennema-Nio <postgres@jeltef.nl>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Daniel Gustafsson <daniel@yesql.se>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Greg Sabino Mullane <htamfids@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` walther@technowledgy.de
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Greg Sabino Mullane <htamfids@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Jelte Fennema-Nio <postgres@jeltef.nl>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Michael Banck <mbanck@gmx.net>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Robert Treat <rob@xzilla.net>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Joe Conway <mail@joeconway.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Jelte Fennema-Nio <postgres@jeltef.nl>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Jelte Fennema-Nio <postgres@jeltef.nl>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Daniel Gustafsson <daniel@yesql.se>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Abhijit Menon-Sen <ams@toroid.org>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Jelte Fennema-Nio <postgres@jeltef.nl>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Robert Treat <rob@xzilla.net>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Greg Sabino Mullane <htamfids@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Jelte Fennema-Nio <postgres@jeltef.nl>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` "David G. Johnston" <david.g.johnston@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Joe Conway <mail@joeconway.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Gabriele Bartolini <gabriele.bartolini@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Álvaro Hernández <aht@ongres.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Gabriele Bartolini <gabriele.bartolini@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Martín Marqués <martin.marques@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Gabriele Bartolini <gabriele.bartolini@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Isaac Morland <isaac.morland@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Martín Marqués <martin.marques@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` "David G. Johnston" <david.g.johnston@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Peter Eisentraut <peter@eisentraut.org>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Gabriele Bartolini <gabriele.bartolini@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Peter Eisentraut <peter@eisentraut.org>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Jelte Fennema-Nio <postgres@jeltef.nl>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Peter Eisentraut <peter@eisentraut.org>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Jelte Fennema-Nio <postgres@jeltef.nl>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Gabriele Bartolini <gabriele.bartolini@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Jelte Fennema-Nio <postgres@jeltef.nl>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` "Euler Taveira" <euler@eulerto.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` "David G. Johnston" <david.g.johnston@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` "David G. Johnston" <david.g.johnston@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM` Gabriele Bartolini <gabriele.bartolini@enterprisedb.com>
> On 19 Mar 2024, at 15:51, Tom Lane  wrote:
> 
> Heikki Linnakangas  writes:
>> Perhaps we could make that even better with a GUC though. I propose a 
>> GUC called 'configuration_managed_externally = true / false". If you set 
>> it to true, we prevent ALTER SYSTEM and make the error message more 
>> definitive:
> 
>> postgres=# ALTER SYSTEM SET wal_level TO minimal;
>> ERROR:  configuration is managed externally
> 
>> As a bonus, if that GUC is set, we could even check at server startup 
>> that all the configuration files are not writable by the postgres user, 
>> and print a warning or refuse to start up if they are.
> 
> I like this idea.  The "bonus" is not optional though, because
> setting the files' ownership/permissions is the only way to be
> sure that the prohibition is even a little bit bulletproof.

Agreed, assuming we can solve the below..

> One small issue: how do we make that work on Windows?  Have recent
> versions grown anything that looks like real file permissions?

--
Daniel Gustafsson



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