Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files
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Tomas Vondra
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Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files
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20191003165221.q63fedlb5wrcq4ri@development
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Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files (Stephen Frost)
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Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files Tels <nospam-pg-abuse@bloodgate.com>
Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files "Moon, Insung" <tsukiwamoon.pgsql@gmail.com>
Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files "Moon, Insung" <tsukiwamoon.pgsql@gmail.com>
Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files Ants Aasma <ants@cybertec.at>
Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files Antonin Houska <ah@cybertec.at>
Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files Antonin Houska <ah@cybertec.at>
Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files Antonin Houska <ah@cybertec.at>
Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files "Moon, Insung" <tsukiwamoon.pgsql@gmail.com>
Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files Antonin Houska <ah@cybertec.at>
Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files "Moon, Insung" <tsukiwamoon.pgsql@gmail.com>
Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files Antonin Houska <ah@cybertec.at>
Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files Antonin Houska <ah@cybertec.at>
Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files Craig Ringer <craig@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files "Moon, Insung" <tsukiwamoon.pgsql@gmail.com>
On Thu, Oct 03, 2019 at 11:58:55AM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: >Greetings, > >* Peter Eisentraut (peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com) wrote: >> On 2019-10-03 16:40, Stephen Frost wrote: >> >> As others have said, that sounds wrong to me. I think you need to >> >> encrypt everything. >> > That isn't what other database systems do though and isn't what people >> > actually asking for this feature are expecting to have or deal with. >> >> It is what some other database systems do. Perhaps some others don't. > >I looked at the contemporary databases and provided details about all of >them earlier in the thread. Please feel free to review that and let me >know if your research shows differently. > I assume you mean this (in one of the other threads): https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/20190817175217.GE16436%40tamriel.snowman.net FWIW I don't see anything contradicting the idea of just encrypting everything (including vm, fsm etc.). The only case that seems to be an exception is the column-level encryption in Oracle, all the other options (especially the database-level ones) seem to be consistent with this principle. regards -- Tomas Vondra http://www.2ndQuadrant.com PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Remote DBA, Training & Services
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