От: Jim C. Nasby
Тема: Re: Hints proposal
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Msg-id: 20061012193414.GV28647@nasby.net
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Ответ на: Re: Hints proposal  (Jeff Davis)
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       Re: [HACKERS] Hints proposal  (Josh Berkus, )
        Re: [HACKERS] Hints proposal  ("Jim C. Nasby", )
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   Re: Hints proposal  (Jeff Davis, )
 Re: [HACKERS] Hints proposal  (Andrew Sullivan, )
 Re: [HACKERS] Hints proposal  (Robert Treat, )

On Thu, Oct 12, 2006 at 09:42:55AM -0700, Jeff Davis wrote:
> On Thu, 2006-10-12 at 10:14 -0500, Jim C. Nasby wrote:
> > The syntax these hints is something arbitrary. I'm borrowing Oracle's
> > idea of embedding hints in comments, but we can use some other method if
> > desired. Right now I'm more concerned with getting the general idea
> > across.
> >
>
> Is there any advantage to having the hints in the queries? To me that's
> asking for trouble with no benefit at all. It would seem to me to be
> better to have a system catalog that defined hints as something like:
>
> "If user A executes a query matching regex R, then coerce (or force) the
> planner in this way."
>
> I'm not suggesting that we do that, but it seems better then embedding
> the hints in the queries themselves.

My experience is that on the occasions when I want to beat the planner
into submission, it's usually a pretty complex query that's the issue,
and that it's unlikely to have more than a handful of them in the
application. That makes me think a regex facility would just get in the
way, but perhaps others have much more extensive need of hinting.

I also suspect that writing that regex could become a real bear.

Having said that... I see no reason why it couldn't work... but the real
challenge is defining the hints.
--
Jim Nasby                                            
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