Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures
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Simon Riggs
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Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures
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1219186434.5343.1076.camel@ebony.2ndQuadrant
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Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures (Hannu Krosing)
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Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures Martin Pihlak <martin.pihlak@gmail.com>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures Martin Pihlak <martin.pihlak@gmail.com>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures "Asko Oja" <ascoja@gmail.com>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures David Fetter <david@fetter.org>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures Dimitri Fontaine <dfontaine@hi-media.com>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures "Pavel Stehule" <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures Hannu Krosing <hannu@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures "Pavel Stehule" <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures Hannu Krosing <hannu@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures "Pavel Stehule" <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures Hannu Krosing <hannu@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures "Pavel Stehule" <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures Dimitri Fontaine <dfontaine@hi-media.com>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures Dimitri Fontaine <dfontaine@hi-media.com>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures "Pavel Stehule" <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures "Asko Oja" <ascoja@gmail.com>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures Dimitri Fontaine <dfontaine@hi-media.com>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures Hannu Krosing <hannu@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures "Asko Oja" <ascoja@gmail.com>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures "Robert Haas" <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures Hannu Krosing <hannu@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures Hannu Krosing <hannu@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures David Fetter <david@fetter.org>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures David Fetter <david@fetter.org>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures Zdenek Kotala <Zdenek.Kotala@Sun.COM>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures "Robert Haas" <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures Dimitri Fontaine <dfontaine@hi-media.com>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures "Asko Oja" <ascoja@gmail.com>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures Hannu Krosing <hannu@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures Gregory Stark <stark@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures Joshua Drake <jd@commandprompt.com>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures Joshua Drake <jd@commandprompt.com>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures Joshua Drake <jd@commandprompt.com>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures Dimitri Fontaine <dfontaine@hi-media.com>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures "Asko Oja" <ascoja@gmail.com>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures Andrew Sullivan <ajs@commandprompt.com>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures Kenneth Marshall <ktm@rice.edu>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures "Asko Oja" <ascoja@gmail.com>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures Andrew Sullivan <ajs@commandprompt.com>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures Hannu Krosing <hannu@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures "Asko Oja" <ascoja@gmail.com>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures Decibel! <decibel@decibel.org>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures Andrew Sullivan <ajs@commandprompt.com>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures Joshua Drake <jd@commandprompt.com>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures Andrew Sullivan <ajs@commandprompt.com>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures Michael Paesold <mpaesold@gmx.at>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures Dimitri Fontaine <dfontaine@hi-media.com>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures Hannu Krosing <hannu@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures Hannu Krosing <hannu@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures Martin Pihlak <martin.pihlak@gmail.com>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures "Asko Oja" <ascoja@gmail.com>
Re: Patch: plan invalidation vs stored procedures Zeugswetter Andreas OSB sIT <Andreas.Zeugswetter@s-itsolutions.at>
On Wed, 2008-08-20 at 00:11 +0300, Hannu Krosing wrote: > On Tue, 2008-08-19 at 16:56 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > > > > More generally, if we are to try to invalidate on the strength of > > pg_proc changes, what of other DDL changes? Operators, operator > > classes, maybe? How about renaming a schema? I would like to see a > > line drawn between things we find worth trying to track and things we > > don't. If there is no such line, we're going to need a patch a lot > > larger than this one. > > Or maybe a simpler and smaller patch - just invalidate everything on > every schema change :) > > It will have a momentary impact on performance at DDL time, but > otherways might be more robust and easier to check for errors. I think Tom's main question is the right one: how much to invalidate? ISTM that there must be some user defined control over how this occurs. We have cascade and restrict as options in other places. Being able to force replanning of everything when you know its the right thing to do sounds sensible and useful. Being able to avoid it when you know it isn't needed also sounds sensible and useful. It would be useful to have an impact assessment tool, so we could say "if I made this change, how many plans would it effect?". We can't do that because the plans aren't shared. Perhaps that is a good argument for a shared plan cache, or at least some way of defining whether some plans are shared, some not. -- Simon Riggs www.2ndQuadrant.comPostgreSQL Training, Services and Support
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