Re: Is full_page_writes=off safe in conjunction with
От | Hannu Krosing |
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Тема | Re: Is full_page_writes=off safe in conjunction with |
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Msg-id | 1145097119.3963.8.camel@localhost.localdomain обсуждение исходный текст |
Ответ на | Re: Is full_page_writes=off safe in conjunction with PITR? (Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>) |
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Re: Is full_page_writes=off safe in conjunction with PITR?
Re: Is full_page_writes=off safe in conjunction with |
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Ühel kenal päeval, R, 2006-04-14 kell 17:31, kirjutas Tom Lane: > Hannu Krosing <hannu@skype.net> writes: > > Ühel kenal päeval, R, 2006-04-14 kell 16:40, kirjutas Tom Lane: > >> If the backup-taker reads, say, 4K at a time then it's > >> certainly possible that it gets a later version of the second half of a > >> page than it got of the first half. I don't know about you, but I sure > >> don't feel comfortable making assumptions at that level about the > >> behavior of tar or cpio. > >> > >> I fear we still have to disable full_page_writes (force it ON) if > >> XLogArchivingActive is on. Comments? > > > Why not just tell the backup-taker to take backups using 8K pages ? > > How? use find + dd, or whatever. I just dont want it to be made universally unavailable just because some users *might* use an file/disk-level backup solution which is incompatible. > (No, I don't think tar's blocksize options control this > necessarily --- those indicate the blocking factor on the *tape*. > And not everyone uses tar anyway.) If I'm desperate enough to get the 2x reduction of WAL writes, I may even write my own backup solution. > Even if this would work for all popular backup programs, it seems > far too fragile: the consequence of forgetting the switch would be > silent data corruption, which you might not notice until the slave > had been in live operation for some time. We may declare only one solution to be supported by us with XLogArchivingActive, say a gnu tar modified to read in Nx8K blocks ( pg_tar :p ). I guess that even if we can control what operating system does, it is still possible to get a torn page using some SAN solution, where you can freeze the image for backup independent of OS. ---------------- Hannu
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