Обсуждение: Avoid calling SetMatViewPopulatedState if possible

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Avoid calling SetMatViewPopulatedState if possible

От
"cca5507"
Дата:
Hi,

During refresh matview, we call SetMatViewPopulatedState unconditionally even
if the value doesn't change. Attach a small patch to optimize it.

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Regards,
ChangAo Chen

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Re: Avoid calling SetMatViewPopulatedState if possible

От
David Geier
Дата:
Hi,

On 10.04.2026 05:36, cca5507 wrote:
> During refresh matview, we call SetMatViewPopulatedState unconditionally even
> if the value doesn't change. Attach a small patch to optimize it.

Thanks for sharing this patch.

While being a simple patch, it would be good to know what actual use
cases this change improves on and by how much. Can you share a test case
and/or performance data?

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David Geier



Re: Avoid calling SetMatViewPopulatedState if possible

От
"cca5507"
Дата:
Hi,

Thanks for your reply!

> While being a simple patch, it would be good to know what actual use
> cases this change improves on and by how much. Can you share a test case
> and/or performance data?

The improvement of performance is small, so it's hard to observe it. But I think
the patch is still useful because we can avoid generating dead pg_class tuple:

create table t(a int);
create materialized view m as select a from t;
create unique index on m(a);
select ctid from pg_class where relname = 'm';
refresh materialized view concurrently m;
select ctid from pg_class where relname = 'm';

Before the patch, the ctid will change every time we refresh the matview.

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Regards,
ChangAo Chen

Re: Avoid calling SetMatViewPopulatedState if possible

От
David Geier
Дата:
On 05.05.2026 13:58, cca5507 wrote:
>> While being a simple patch, it would be good to know what actual use
>> cases this change improves on and by how much. Can you share a test case
>> and/or performance data?
> 
> The improvement of performance is small, so it's hard to observe it. But I think
> the patch is still useful because we can avoid generating dead pg_class tuple:
> 
> create table t(a int);
> create materialized view m as select a from t;
> create unique index on m(a);
> select ctid from pg_class where relname = 'm';
> refresh materialized view concurrently m;
> select ctid from pg_class where relname = 'm';
> 
> Before the patch, the ctid will change every time we refresh the matview.

Yeah, that's kind of what I had in mind as I wasn't expecting the
performance to matter much here. Avoiding the bloat seems generally
reasonable.

But refreshing a materialized view doesn't only change relispopulated
but also columns like relfilenode, relpages, relhasindex, etc. Doesn't
changing these columns during REFRESH MATERIALIZED VIEW make your
optimization applicable in a lot less cases?

I'm actually wondering why it works at all, even in the example you
gave. Because I thought that even when nothing has changed the pg_class
row is updated for more columns than just relispopulated.

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David Geier



Re: Avoid calling SetMatViewPopulatedState if possible

От
"cca5507"
Дата:
> But refreshing a materialized view doesn't only change relispopulated
> but also columns like relfilenode, relpages, relhasindex, etc. Doesn't
> changing these columns during REFRESH MATERIALIZED VIEW make your
> optimization applicable in a lot less cases?

I don't think so. If we can skip SetMatViewPopulatedState(), we avoid generating
a dead pg_class tuple in all cases.

> I'm actually wondering why it works at all, even in the example you
> gave. Because I thought that even when nothing has changed the pg_class
> row is updated for more columns than just relispopulated.

"refresh materialized view concurrently" is done by doing DELETE + INSERT
to the matview directly, so only relispopulated will change before the patch.
After the patch, the pg_class row don't change anymore.

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Regards,
ChangAo Chen