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postgrsql 9.5: Old WAL files remain in secondary `pg_xlog`

От
Mohan NBSPS
Дата:
Hello Community,

Although the WAL retaining settings are default (max size 1GB),
`wal_keep_segments` is 25, checkpoint target is 2.5 minutes(default).
I noticed a few WAL files in secondary nodes (streaming replication) `pg_xlog`
folder.

What could be the reason why postgresql did not delete these ?

Thank you
Regards
Mohan

Re: postgrsql 9.5: Old WAL files remain in secondary `pg_xlog`

От
Muhammad Imtiaz
Дата:
Hi ,

Ensure the following:

• Replication is functioning correctly between the primary and secondary servers, with no lag.

• The archive_command parameter is properly configured in the database settings.

Regards,

Muhammad Imtiaz

On Sat, 1 Jun 2024, 04:01 Mohan NBSPS, <mohan.nbs.ont@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Community,

Although the WAL retaining settings are default (max size 1GB),
`wal_keep_segments` is 25, checkpoint target is 2.5 minutes(default).
I noticed a few WAL files in secondary nodes (streaming replication) `pg_xlog`
folder.

What could be the reason why postgresql did not delete these ?

Thank you
Regards
Mohan

Re: postgrsql 9.5: Old WAL files remain in secondary `pg_xlog`

От
Kashif Zeeshan
Дата:
Hi Mohsn

There can be multiple reasons for that.

1. If the archiving process on the standby is not working correctly, old WAL files will not be removed.
2. Ensure that the configuration settings for WAL management are correctly set on both primary and standby
3. If checkpoints are not happening frequently enough, WAL files will accumulate.

To diagnose the issue

1. Ensure that the replication between the primary and the standby is working correctly.

On Primary Server
SELECT client_addr, state, sent_lsn, write_lsn, flush_lsn, replay_lsn
FROM pg_stat_replication;

On Standby Server
SELECT pg_last_wal_receive_lsn(), pg_last_wal_replay_lsn();


2. Check if the archiving process on the standby is working properly. Look for any errors or warnings in the PostgreSQL logs related to WAL archiving.
3. Ensure that the standby server has the correct restore command configured to fetch the archived WAL files.


Regards
Kashif Zeeshan
Bitnine Global



On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 4:01 AM Mohan NBSPS <mohan.nbs.ont@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Community,

Although the WAL retaining settings are default (max size 1GB),
`wal_keep_segments` is 25, checkpoint target is 2.5 minutes(default).
I noticed a few WAL files in secondary nodes (streaming replication) `pg_xlog`
folder.

What could be the reason why postgresql did not delete these ?

Thank you
Regards
Mohan

Re: postgrsql 9.5: Old WAL files remain in secondary `pg_xlog`

От
vignesh kumar
Дата:
You can use slot based replication, so that postgres knows which WAL FILE to retain and delete. however, if you're not concerned about storage, but then the replica go for WAL storage or WAL hub kind of solutions.. 


From: Kashif Zeeshan <kashi.zeeshan@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 5:17:57 PM
To: mohan.nbs.ont@gmail.com <mohan.nbs.ont@gmail.com>
Cc: pgsql-admin@lists.postgresql.org <pgsql-admin@lists.postgresql.org>
Subject: Re: postgrsql 9.5: Old WAL files remain in secondary `pg_xlog`
 
Hi Mohsn

There can be multiple reasons for that.

1. If the archiving process on the standby is not working correctly, old WAL files will not be removed.
2. Ensure that the configuration settings for WAL management are correctly set on both primary and standby
3. If checkpoints are not happening frequently enough, WAL files will accumulate.

To diagnose the issue

1. Ensure that the replication between the primary and the standby is working correctly.

On Primary Server
SELECT client_addr, state, sent_lsn, write_lsn, flush_lsn, replay_lsn
FROM pg_stat_replication;

On Standby Server
SELECT pg_last_wal_receive_lsn(), pg_last_wal_replay_lsn();


2. Check if the archiving process on the standby is working properly. Look for any errors or warnings in the PostgreSQL logs related to WAL archiving.
3. Ensure that the standby server has the correct restore command configured to fetch the archived WAL files.


Regards
Kashif Zeeshan
Bitnine Global



On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 4:01 AM Mohan NBSPS <mohan.nbs.ont@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Community,

Although the WAL retaining settings are default (max size 1GB),
`wal_keep_segments` is 25, checkpoint target is 2.5 minutes(default).
I noticed a few WAL files in secondary nodes (streaming replication) `pg_xlog`
folder.

What could be the reason why postgresql did not delete these ?

Thank you
Regards
Mohan

Re: postgrsql 9.5: Old WAL files remain in secondary `pg_xlog`

От
Mohan NBSPS
Дата:
thank you.
the replication seems to work.

sorry, my question was incomplete.
I see few very old (over 2 years) WAL files remain in the secondary (primary is clean with only
new WAL files).

On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 11:58 PM Muhammad Imtiaz <imtiaz.m@bitnine.net> wrote:
Hi ,

Ensure the following:

• Replication is functioning correctly between the primary and secondary servers, with no lag.

• The archive_command parameter is properly configured in the database settings.

Regards,

Muhammad Imtiaz

On Sat, 1 Jun 2024, 04:01 Mohan NBSPS, <mohan.nbs.ont@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Community,

Although the WAL retaining settings are default (max size 1GB),
`wal_keep_segments` is 25, checkpoint target is 2.5 minutes(default).
I noticed a few WAL files in secondary nodes (streaming replication) `pg_xlog`
folder.

What could be the reason why postgresql did not delete these ?

Thank you
Regards
Mohan

Re: postgrsql 9.5: Old WAL files remain in secondary `pg_xlog`

От
Mohan NBSPS
Дата:

On Sun, Jun 2, 2024 at 7:48 AM Kashif Zeeshan <kashi.zeeshan@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Mohsn

There can be multiple reasons for that.

1. If the archiving process on the standby is not working correctly, old WAL files will not be removed.
2. Ensure that the configuration settings for WAL management are correctly set on both primary and standby
3. If checkpoints are not happening frequently enough, WAL files will accumulate.

To diagnose the issue

1. Ensure that the replication between the primary and the standby is working correctly.

On Primary Server
SELECT client_addr, state, sent_lsn, write_lsn, flush_lsn, replay_lsn
FROM pg_stat_replication;

On Standby Server
SELECT pg_last_wal_receive_lsn(), pg_last_wal_replay_lsn();


2. Check if the archiving process on the standby is working properly. Look for any errors or warnings in the PostgreSQL logs related to WAL archiving.
3. Ensure that the standby server has the correct restore command configured to fetch the archived WAL files.


Regards
Kashif Zeeshan
Bitnine Global



On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 4:01 AM Mohan NBSPS <mohan.nbs.ont@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Community,

Although the WAL retaining settings are default (max size 1GB),
`wal_keep_segments` is 25, checkpoint target is 2.5 minutes(default).
I noticed a few WAL files in secondary nodes (streaming replication) `pg_xlog`
folder.

What could be the reason why postgresql did not delete these ?

Thank you
Regards
Mohan

Re: postgrsql 9.5: Old WAL files remain in secondary `pg_xlog`

От
Mohan NBSPS
Дата:
thank you,
we are not using slots due to storage related issues that could occur if the network is broken.


On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 9:33 PM vignesh kumar <vigneshkumar.venugopal@outlook.com> wrote:
You can use slot based replication, so that postgres knows which WAL FILE to retain and delete. however, if you're not concerned about storage, but then the replica go for WAL storage or WAL hub kind of solutions.. 


From: Kashif Zeeshan <kashi.zeeshan@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 5:17:57 PM
To: mohan.nbs.ont@gmail.com <mohan.nbs.ont@gmail.com>
Cc: pgsql-admin@lists.postgresql.org <pgsql-admin@lists.postgresql.org>
Subject: Re: postgrsql 9.5: Old WAL files remain in secondary `pg_xlog`
 
Hi Mohsn

There can be multiple reasons for that.

1. If the archiving process on the standby is not working correctly, old WAL files will not be removed.
2. Ensure that the configuration settings for WAL management are correctly set on both primary and standby
3. If checkpoints are not happening frequently enough, WAL files will accumulate.

To diagnose the issue

1. Ensure that the replication between the primary and the standby is working correctly.

On Primary Server
SELECT client_addr, state, sent_lsn, write_lsn, flush_lsn, replay_lsn
FROM pg_stat_replication;

On Standby Server
SELECT pg_last_wal_receive_lsn(), pg_last_wal_replay_lsn();


2. Check if the archiving process on the standby is working properly. Look for any errors or warnings in the PostgreSQL logs related to WAL archiving.
3. Ensure that the standby server has the correct restore command configured to fetch the archived WAL files.


Regards
Kashif Zeeshan
Bitnine Global



On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 4:01 AM Mohan NBSPS <mohan.nbs.ont@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Community,

Although the WAL retaining settings are default (max size 1GB),
`wal_keep_segments` is 25, checkpoint target is 2.5 minutes(default).
I noticed a few WAL files in secondary nodes (streaming replication) `pg_xlog`
folder.

What could be the reason why postgresql did not delete these ?

Thank you
Regards
Mohan

Re: postgrsql 9.5: Old WAL files remain in secondary `pg_xlog`

От
Kashif Zeeshan
Дата:
Hi

On Wed, Jun 5, 2024 at 5:10 AM Mohan NBSPS <mohan.nbs.ont@gmail.com> wrote:
thank you,
we are not using slots due to storage related issues that could occur if the network is broken.
Slots are very useful and it will ensure that the Standby will not lag behind the master and master will retain the WAL Files if standy did not apply them yet, the storage is consideration but only incase of network failure but this wont be a  very big consideration.

Regards
Kashif Zeeshan
Bitnine Global 


On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 9:33 PM vignesh kumar <vigneshkumar.venugopal@outlook.com> wrote:
You can use slot based replication, so that postgres knows which WAL FILE to retain and delete. however, if you're not concerned about storage, but then the replica go for WAL storage or WAL hub kind of solutions.. 


From: Kashif Zeeshan <kashi.zeeshan@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 5:17:57 PM
To: mohan.nbs.ont@gmail.com <mohan.nbs.ont@gmail.com>
Cc: pgsql-admin@lists.postgresql.org <pgsql-admin@lists.postgresql.org>
Subject: Re: postgrsql 9.5: Old WAL files remain in secondary `pg_xlog`
 
Hi Mohsn

There can be multiple reasons for that.

1. If the archiving process on the standby is not working correctly, old WAL files will not be removed.
2. Ensure that the configuration settings for WAL management are correctly set on both primary and standby
3. If checkpoints are not happening frequently enough, WAL files will accumulate.

To diagnose the issue

1. Ensure that the replication between the primary and the standby is working correctly.

On Primary Server
SELECT client_addr, state, sent_lsn, write_lsn, flush_lsn, replay_lsn
FROM pg_stat_replication;

On Standby Server
SELECT pg_last_wal_receive_lsn(), pg_last_wal_replay_lsn();


2. Check if the archiving process on the standby is working properly. Look for any errors or warnings in the PostgreSQL logs related to WAL archiving.
3. Ensure that the standby server has the correct restore command configured to fetch the archived WAL files.


Regards
Kashif Zeeshan
Bitnine Global



On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 4:01 AM Mohan NBSPS <mohan.nbs.ont@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Community,

Although the WAL retaining settings are default (max size 1GB),
`wal_keep_segments` is 25, checkpoint target is 2.5 minutes(default).
I noticed a few WAL files in secondary nodes (streaming replication) `pg_xlog`
folder.

What could be the reason why postgresql did not delete these ?

Thank you
Regards
Mohan

Re: postgrsql 9.5: Old WAL files remain in secondary `pg_xlog`

От
Scott Ribe
Дата:
> On Jun 4, 2024, at 9:36 PM, Kashif Zeeshan <kashi.zeeshan@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> we are not using slots due to storage related issues that could occur if the network is broken

If you can ever upgrade to a current version, then there's a parameter that can be set to put a limit on retained WAL,
sothat in case of network failure, it sacrifices the ability to bring the replica back online quickly in favor of not
bringingthe primary down with disk full condition.