Обсуждение: Missing recent email in archives
Is something wrong with the email archives? I recevied this email
today:
Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2021 09:41:32 +0000
From: Chris Lowder <clowder@hey.com>
To: pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org, Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Message-ID: <b4093b5a1383fe157e7dfd52606f4173352fd4fb@hey.com>
In-Reply-To: <20211216205232.GA30462@momjian.us>
Subject: Re: 11.7. Indexes on Expressions
and usually I can search it almost immediately in the PG email archives,
but this returns a not found error:
https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/b4093b5a1383fe157e7dfd52606f4173352fd4fb@hey.com
--
Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> https://momjian.us
EDB https://enterprisedb.com
If only the physical world exists, free will is an illusion.
I was about to reply saying I didn't get any such message but it literally just arrived just now.
Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> writes:
> Is something wrong with the email archives? I recevied this email
> today:
> and usually I can search it almost immediately in the PG email archives,
> but this returns a not found error:
Looks like it was held for moderation ...
regards, tom lane
On 2021-Dec-17, Greg Stark wrote: > I was about to reply saying I didn't get any such message but it > literally just arrived just now. Ah, so what happened is that Bruce was too quick to request that URL from the website before the email was approved by the mailing list moderators, and since it wasn't found the negative response was cached by the website frontends. I have just purged it from the cache and now it seems to work okay. -- Álvaro Herrera Valdivia, Chile — https://www.EnterpriseDB.com/ "Puedes vivir sólo una vez, pero si lo haces bien, una vez es suficiente"
It looks like it was held up on the mail server named malur.postgresql.org for ... quite a while. From 9:41 GMT to 15:24 GMT or nearly 6 hours? Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from <pgsql-docs-owner+M3029-366995@lists.postgresql.org>) id 1myF6Q-0007ii-2K for gsstark@mit.edu; Fri, 17 Dec 2021 15:24:58 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from <clowder@hey.com>) id 1my9kD-0001mu-7e for pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org; Fri, 17 Dec 2021 09:41:41 +0000
On 2021-Dec-17, Greg Stark wrote: > It looks like it was held up on the mail server named > malur.postgresql.org for ... quite a while. From 9:41 GMT to 15:24 GMT > or nearly 6 hours? Yeah, malur is the mailing list server. That would be the wait for a moderator to approve it. -- Álvaro Herrera 39°49'30"S 73°17'W — https://www.EnterpriseDB.com/ "Uno puede defenderse de los ataques; contra los elogios se esta indefenso"
On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 10:38:00AM -0500, Tom Lane wrote: > Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> writes: > > Is something wrong with the email archives? I received this email > > today: > > and usually I can search it almost immediately in the PG email archives, > > but this returns a not found error: > > Looks like it was held for moderation ... OK, thanks. I figured there must be a reason, but I couldn't figure it out. PgLife (https://pglife.momjian.us/) shows the most recent email at the time _I_ receive it. Seems PgLife will have a problem when there is a mismatch between when I receive the email and when it is archived. If I received my personal copy and the email list copy, I could trigger only on the second, but I have nocc set. Anyway, I think I am okay with this failing occasionally, now that I know the cause. Thanks. -- Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> https://momjian.us EDB https://enterprisedb.com If only the physical world exists, free will is an illusion.
On 2021-Dec-17, Bruce Momjian wrote: > PgLife (https://pglife.momjian.us/) shows the most recent email at the > time _I_ receive it. Seems PgLife will have a problem when there is a > mismatch between when I receive the email and when it is archived. If I > received my personal copy and the email list copy, I could trigger only > on the second, but I have nocc set. Anyway, I think I am okay with this > failing occasionally, now that I know the cause. Thanks. Maybe for something like pglife, you should only consider emails that have the 'Archived-At' header set. -- Álvaro Herrera 39°49'30"S 73°17'W — https://www.EnterpriseDB.com/
On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 02:09:06PM -0300, Álvaro Herrera wrote: > On 2021-Dec-17, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > PgLife (https://pglife.momjian.us/) shows the most recent email at the > > time _I_ receive it. Seems PgLife will have a problem when there is a > > mismatch between when I receive the email and when it is archived. If I > > received my personal copy and the email list copy, I could trigger only > > on the second, but I have nocc set. Anyway, I think I am okay with this > > failing occasionally, now that I know the cause. Thanks. > > Maybe for something like pglife, you should only consider emails that > have the 'Archived-At' header set. Yes, I thought about that, but I am afraid that emails only to me would not appear in PgLife since I have the I currently _only_ get the non-archived email, and if I turn off "Don't receive an extra copy of mails when listed in To or CC fields" then I have to filter them out on my end, which might be complex. -- Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> https://momjian.us EDB https://enterprisedb.com If only the physical world exists, free will is an illusion.