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Question to datatype.sgml

От
Tatsuo Ishii
Дата:
Hi,

Can you please someone elaborate what's the meaning of "even" in
datatype.sgml?

    <para>
     By default, floating point values are output in text form in their
     shortest precise decimal representation; the decimal value produced is
     closer to the true stored binary value than to any other value
     representable in the same binary precision. (However, the output value is
     currently never <emphasis>exactly</emphasis> midway between two
     representable values, in order to avoid a widespread bug where input
     routines do not properly respect the round-to-even rule.) This value will
                                          ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
     use at most 17 significant decimal digits for <type>float8</type>
     values, and at most 9 digits for <type>float4</type> values.
    </para>

I think "even" means "equality" here, not "even" of "even and odd".

Best regards,
--
Tatsuo Ishii
SRA OSS, Inc. Japan
English: http://www.sraoss.co.jp/index_en.php
Japanese:http://www.sraoss.co.jp



Re: Question to datatype.sgml

От
Vik Fearing
Дата:
On 30/12/2019 01:34, Tatsuo Ishii wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Can you please someone elaborate what's the meaning of "even" in
> datatype.sgml?
>
>     <para>
>      By default, floating point values are output in text form in their
>      shortest precise decimal representation; the decimal value produced is
>      closer to the true stored binary value than to any other value
>      representable in the same binary precision. (However, the output value is
>      currently never <emphasis>exactly</emphasis> midway between two
>      representable values, in order to avoid a widespread bug where input
>      routines do not properly respect the round-to-even rule.) This value will
>                                           ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>      use at most 17 significant decimal digits for <type>float8</type>
>      values, and at most 9 digits for <type>float4</type> values.
>     </para>
>
> I think "even" means "equality" here, not "even" of "even and odd".


It does actually mean "even and odd".  This kind of rounding is also
called "Banker's Rounding".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rounding#Round_half_to_even

-- 

Vik Fearing




Re: Question to datatype.sgml

От
Tatsuo Ishii
Дата:
> On 30/12/2019 01:34, Tatsuo Ishii wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Can you please someone elaborate what's the meaning of "even" in
>> datatype.sgml?
>>
>>     <para>
>>      By default, floating point values are output in text form in their
>>      shortest precise decimal representation; the decimal value produced is
>>      closer to the true stored binary value than to any other value
>>      representable in the same binary precision. (However, the output value is
>>      currently never <emphasis>exactly</emphasis> midway between two
>>      representable values, in order to avoid a widespread bug where input
>>      routines do not properly respect the round-to-even rule.) This value will
>>                                           ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>      use at most 17 significant decimal digits for <type>float8</type>
>>      values, and at most 9 digits for <type>float4</type> values.
>>     </para>
>>
>> I think "even" means "equality" here, not "even" of "even and odd".
>
>
> It does actually mean "even and odd".  This kind of rounding is also
> called "Banker's Rounding".
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rounding#Round_half_to_even

Oh, Thanks! The link is very helpful.
--
Tatsuo Ishii
SRA OSS, Inc. Japan
English: http://www.sraoss.co.jp/index_en.php
Japanese:http://www.sraoss.co.jp



Re: Question to datatype.sgml

От
Tom Lane
Дата:
Tatsuo Ishii <ishii@sraoss.co.jp> writes:
>>> Can you please someone elaborate what's the meaning of "even" in
>>> datatype.sgml?

>>>> representable values, in order to avoid a widespread bug where input
>>>> routines do not properly respect the round-to-even rule.) This value will

>> It does actually mean "even and odd".  This kind of rounding is also
>> called "Banker's Rounding".
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rounding#Round_half_to_even

> Oh, Thanks! The link is very helpful.

I think actually the standard terminology is "round-to-nearest-even".

            regards, tom lane



Re: Question to datatype.sgml

От
Tatsuo Ishii
Дата:
>>> It does actually mean "even and odd".  This kind of rounding is also
>>> called "Banker's Rounding".
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rounding#Round_half_to_even
> 
>> Oh, Thanks! The link is very helpful.
> 
> I think actually the standard terminology is "round-to-nearest-even".

Ok, I will change it to "round-to-nearest-even" if there's no objection.

Best regards,
--
Tatsuo Ishii
SRA OSS, Inc. Japan
English: http://www.sraoss.co.jp/index_en.php
Japanese:http://www.sraoss.co.jp



Re: Question to datatype.sgml

От
Tatsuo Ishii
Дата:
>> I think actually the standard terminology is "round-to-nearest-even".
> 
> Ok, I will change it to "round-to-nearest-even" if there's no objection.

Done.

Best regards,
--
Tatsuo Ishii
SRA OSS, Inc. Japan
English: http://www.sraoss.co.jp/index_en.php
Japanese:http://www.sraoss.co.jp