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pgsql: Add wait event for fsync of WAL segments

От
Michael Paquier
Дата:
Add wait event for fsync of WAL segments

This has been visibly a forgotten spot in the first implementation of
wait events for I/O added by 249cf07, and what has been missing is a
fsync call for WAL segments which is a wrapper reacting on the value of
GUC wal_sync_method.

Reported-by: Konstantin Knizhnik
Author: Konstantin Knizhnik
Reviewed-by: Craig Ringer, Michael Paquier
Discussion: https://postgr.es/m/4a243897-0ad8-f471-aa40-242591f2476e@postgrespro.ru

Branch
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master

Details
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https://git.postgresql.org/pg/commitdiff/c55de5e5123ce58ee19a47c08425949599285041

Modified Files
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doc/src/sgml/monitoring.sgml      | 4 ++++
src/backend/access/transam/xlog.c | 2 ++
src/backend/postmaster/pgstat.c   | 3 +++
src/include/pgstat.h              | 1 +
4 files changed, 10 insertions(+)


Re: pgsql: Add wait event for fsync of WAL segments

От
Alvaro Herrera
Дата:
On 2018-Jul-02, Michael Paquier wrote:

> Add wait event for fsync of WAL segments
> 
> This has been visibly a forgotten spot in the first implementation of
> wait events for I/O added by 249cf07, and what has been missing is a
> fsync call for WAL segments which is a wrapper reacting on the value of
> GUC wal_sync_method.

I wonder if we should backpatch this one all the way to pg10.  I don't
see no reason not to.

-- 
Álvaro Herrera                https://www.2ndQuadrant.com/
PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Remote DBA, Training & Services


Re: pgsql: Add wait event for fsync of WAL segments

От
Michael Paquier
Дата:
On Mon, Jul 02, 2018 at 12:23:35PM -0400, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
> I wonder if we should backpatch this one all the way to pg10.  I don't
> see no reason not to.

ABI breakage (if that's the correct wording?).  Simply cherry-picking
the patch from master to back-branches would cause extensions and
plugins already compiled with those versions to be confused by the
ordering of the enum WaitEventIO.  Well, one simple solution is to
simply put the new event purposefully at the bottom of the list.  If
that sounds right, I could do that on back-branches but I'd rather let
HEAD on it current state with the event set correctly ordered.
--
Michael

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Re: pgsql: Add wait event for fsync of WAL segments

От
Alvaro Herrera
Дата:
On 2018-Jul-03, Michael Paquier wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 02, 2018 at 12:23:35PM -0400, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
> > I wonder if we should backpatch this one all the way to pg10.  I don't
> > see no reason not to.
> 
> ABI breakage (if that's the correct wording?).  Simply cherry-picking
> the patch from master to back-branches would cause extensions and
> plugins already compiled with those versions to be confused by the
> ordering of the enum WaitEventIO.  Well, one simple solution is to
> simply put the new event purposefully at the bottom of the list.  If
> that sounds right, I could do that on back-branches

Are the numerical values actually exposed to the world?  I thought the
only way to this info was through the system views, which surely expose
the names, not the numbers.

Actually, comment on pgstat_report_wait_start talks about WaitClass as
if it were a thing, which it seems not to be.  There is a comment "Wait
Classes" but that term is not used anywhere else.

If reading wait events is actually possible, then it seems easy to
backpatch this in pg10 by putting the new value at the end of the
relevant enum, yeah.

> but I'd rather let HEAD on it current state with the event set
> correctly ordered.

Sure.

-- 
Álvaro Herrera                https://www.2ndQuadrant.com/
PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Remote DBA, Training & Services


Re: pgsql: Add wait event for fsync of WAL segments

От
Andres Freund
Дата:
Hi,

On 2018-07-03 15:13:20 -0400, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
> Are the numerical values actually exposed to the world?  I thought the
> only way to this info was through the system views, which surely expose
> the names, not the numbers.

There's at least some work at high frequency sampling of these, and I
assume that's not going through SQL, but rather C functions.


> If reading wait events is actually possible, then it seems easy to
> backpatch this in pg10 by putting the new value at the end of the
> relevant enum, yeah.

Honestly, I don't really see an argument for backpatching this. If
people started measuring it might even invalidate their stats.

Greetings,

Andres Freund


Re: pgsql: Add wait event for fsync of WAL segments

От
Alvaro Herrera
Дата:
On 2018-Jul-03, Andres Freund wrote:

> On 2018-07-03 15:13:20 -0400, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
> > Are the numerical values actually exposed to the world?  I thought the
> > only way to this info was through the system views, which surely expose
> > the names, not the numbers.
> 
> There's at least some work at high frequency sampling of these, and I
> assume that's not going through SQL, but rather C functions.

You're right.

> > If reading wait events is actually possible, then it seems easy to
> > backpatch this in pg10 by putting the new value at the end of the
> > relevant enum, yeah.
> 
> Honestly, I don't really see an argument for backpatching this. If
> people started measuring it might even invalidate their stats.

Hmm, if the stats are really invalidated by this change, then surely the
original numbers were incorrect anyway.

Anyway, it's not a huge deal to me.  If Michael doesn't want to
backpatch it, it's his call, and I don't have the cycles to do it myself
right now either.  If some other committer cares about it, well ...

-- 
Álvaro Herrera                https://www.2ndQuadrant.com/
PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Remote DBA, Training & Services


Re: pgsql: Add wait event for fsync of WAL segments

От
Michael Paquier
Дата:
On Tue, Jul 03, 2018 at 04:12:23PM -0400, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
> On 2018-Jul-03, Andres Freund wrote:
>
> > On 2018-07-03 15:13:20 -0400, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
> > > Are the numerical values actually exposed to the world?  I thought the
> > > only way to this info was through the system views, which surely expose
> > > the names, not the numbers.
> >
> > There's at least some work at high frequency sampling of these, and I
> > assume that's not going through SQL, but rather C functions.
>
> You're right.

My take is a background worker which connects to shared memory and scans
directly ProcArray entries.

> Anyway, it's not a huge deal to me.  If Michael doesn't want to
> backpatch it, it's his call, and I don't have the cycles to do it myself
> right now either.  If some other committer cares about it, well ...

New wait events on HEAD are adapted to HEAD in my opinion, so I would
keep the code as it is now.  If anybody wishes to back-patch the change,
of course feel free to do so.
--
Michael

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Re: pgsql: Add wait event for fsync of WAL segments

От
Julien Rouhaud
Дата:
Hi Michael,

On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 3:23 PM, Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz> wrote:
> Add wait event for fsync of WAL segments
>
> Modified Files
> --------------
> doc/src/sgml/monitoring.sgml      | 4 ++++

I just noticed that the number of rows for the IO wait event type
documentation hasn't been updated, see
https://www.postgresql.org/docs/devel/static/monitoring-stats.html#WAIT-EVENT-TABLE.

Trivial patch attached.

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Re: pgsql: Add wait event for fsync of WAL segments

От
Michael Paquier
Дата:
On Sun, Jul 08, 2018 at 10:23:37PM +0200, Julien Rouhaud wrote:
> I just noticed that the number of rows for the IO wait event type
> documentation hasn't been updated, see
> https://www.postgresql.org/docs/devel/static/monitoring-stats.html#WAIT-EVENT-TABLE.
>
> Trivial patch attached.

Thanks, Julien!  Fixed.  Indeed the table format was weird..
--
Michael

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Re: pgsql: Add wait event for fsync of WAL segments

От
Tom Lane
Дата:
Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz> writes:
> On Sun, Jul 08, 2018 at 10:23:37PM +0200, Julien Rouhaud wrote:
>> I just noticed that the number of rows for the IO wait event type
>> documentation hasn't been updated, see
>> https://www.postgresql.org/docs/devel/static/monitoring-stats.html#WAIT-EVENT-TABLE.
>> Trivial patch attached.

> Thanks, Julien!  Fixed.  Indeed the table format was weird..

Hm, do we need that "morerows" thing at all?  It seems impossible
that we'll remember to keep it up to date in future.  How do you
even check that it's right now?

            regards, tom lane


Re: pgsql: Add wait event for fsync of WAL segments

От
Alvaro Herrera
Дата:
On 2018-Jul-09, Tom Lane wrote:

> Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz> writes:
> > On Sun, Jul 08, 2018 at 10:23:37PM +0200, Julien Rouhaud wrote:
> >> I just noticed that the number of rows for the IO wait event type
> >> documentation hasn't been updated, see
> >> https://www.postgresql.org/docs/devel/static/monitoring-stats.html#WAIT-EVENT-TABLE.
> >> Trivial patch attached.
> 
> > Thanks, Julien!  Fixed.  Indeed the table format was weird..
> 
> Hm, do we need that "morerows" thing at all?  It seems impossible
> that we'll remember to keep it up to date in future.  How do you
> even check that it's right now?

Maybe we should add an XML comment
<!-- remember to update "morerows" above -->
at the end of the table :-)

-- 
Álvaro Herrera                https://www.2ndQuadrant.com/
PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Remote DBA, Training & Services


Re: pgsql: Add wait event for fsync of WAL segments

От
Peter Geoghegan
Дата:
On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 11:24 AM, Alvaro Herrera
<alvherre@2ndquadrant.com> wrote:
> Maybe we should add an XML comment
> <!-- remember to update "morerows" above -->
> at the end of the table :-)

+1. I made the same mistake at one point.

-- 
Peter Geoghegan


Re: pgsql: Add wait event for fsync of WAL segments

От
Michael Paquier
Дата:
On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 12:12:42PM -0700, Peter Geoghegan wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 11:24 AM, Alvaro Herrera
> <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com> wrote:
> > Maybe we should add an XML comment
> > <!-- remember to update "morerows" above -->
> > at the end of the table :-)
>
> +1. I made the same mistake at one point.

Another idea that I have here, is to rework the page for monitoring
stats so as we create one sub-section for each system view, and also one
for the table of wait events.  For the wait events, we could then
completely remove the first category column which has morerows and
divide the section into on table per event category.
--
Michael

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Re: pgsql: Add wait event for fsync of WAL segments

От
Robert Haas
Дата:
On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 4:41 PM, Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz> wrote:
> Another idea that I have here, is to rework the page for monitoring
> stats so as we create one sub-section for each system view, and also one
> for the table of wait events.  For the wait events, we could then
> completely remove the first category column which has morerows and
> divide the section into on table per event category.

+1 from me.  I think I proposed that before.

-- 
Robert Haas
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