Обсуждение: Broken links on main site and other issues
Just had a brief nose around the site and found some issue. On http://www.postgresql.org/about/users the following links are broken: Institut de Biologie et Chimie des Protéines article University of Alabama, Birmingham documentation OmniTI case study On http://www.postgresql.org/about/quotesarchive the link to the Database Hacker's Handbook is broken. I don't know if this right or not, but the license info on http://www.postgresql.org/about/press/presskit84.html.en (BSD) doesn't match the main license page: http://www.postgresql.org/about/licence (PostgreSQL) On http://www.postgresql.org/community/international the link to the Turkish PostgreSQL site comes up with an Apache test page: http://www.postgresql.org.tr/ The alphas page contains redundant info about 9.0a4: http://www.postgresql.org/developer/alpha which is linked to by this page: http://www.postgresql.org/developer/testing For some reason, the Turkish press kit on http://www.postgresql.org/about/press/ is served with the text/troff mime type. Is this normal? Thom
On 11 July 2010 13:06, Thom Brown <thombrown@gmail.com> wrote: > Just had a brief nose around the site and found some issue. > > On http://www.postgresql.org/about/users the following links are broken: > > Institut de Biologie et Chimie des Protéines article > University of Alabama, Birmingham documentation > OmniTI case study > > On http://www.postgresql.org/about/quotesarchive the link to the > Database Hacker's Handbook is broken. > > I don't know if this right or not, but the license info on > http://www.postgresql.org/about/press/presskit84.html.en (BSD) doesn't > match the main license page: http://www.postgresql.org/about/licence > (PostgreSQL) > > On http://www.postgresql.org/community/international the link to the > Turkish PostgreSQL site comes up with an Apache test page: > http://www.postgresql.org.tr/ > > The alphas page contains redundant info about 9.0a4: > http://www.postgresql.org/developer/alpha which is linked to by this > page: http://www.postgresql.org/developer/testing > > For some reason, the Turkish press kit on > http://www.postgresql.org/about/press/ is served with the text/troff > mime type. Is this normal? > > Thom > And another one, on http://www.postgresql.org/docs/books/awbook.html the only link which works under Book Reviews is the Linux Journal one. Under Translations, the German translation sample chapter link is broken, and the Japanese translation. Under Purchase, none of the links work. Thom
On 11 July 2010 13:29, Thom Brown <thombrown@gmail.com> wrote: > On 11 July 2010 13:06, Thom Brown <thombrown@gmail.com> wrote: >> Just had a brief nose around the site and found some issue. >> >> On http://www.postgresql.org/about/users the following links are broken: >> >> Institut de Biologie et Chimie des Protéines article >> University of Alabama, Birmingham documentation >> OmniTI case study >> >> On http://www.postgresql.org/about/quotesarchive the link to the >> Database Hacker's Handbook is broken. >> >> I don't know if this right or not, but the license info on >> http://www.postgresql.org/about/press/presskit84.html.en (BSD) doesn't >> match the main license page: http://www.postgresql.org/about/licence >> (PostgreSQL) >> >> On http://www.postgresql.org/community/international the link to the >> Turkish PostgreSQL site comes up with an Apache test page: >> http://www.postgresql.org.tr/ >> >> The alphas page contains redundant info about 9.0a4: >> http://www.postgresql.org/developer/alpha which is linked to by this >> page: http://www.postgresql.org/developer/testing >> >> For some reason, the Turkish press kit on >> http://www.postgresql.org/about/press/ is served with the text/troff >> mime type. Is this normal? >> >> Thom >> > > And another one, on http://www.postgresql.org/docs/books/awbook.html > the only link which works under Book Reviews is the Linux Journal one. > > Under Translations, the German translation sample chapter link is > broken, and the Japanese translation. > > Under Purchase, none of the links work. > > Thom > On all regions listed under professional support (http://www.postgresql.org/support/professional_support) it mentions Sun Microsystems providing PostgreSQL support. That's not the case anymore is it? Plus the link is no longer valid: http://www.sun.com/postgresql In Europe (http://www.postgresql.org/support/professional_support_europe) - the link for AG IT Consulting is broken: http://www.studioinf.com/ - the link for IBS Solutions is broken: http://www.ibss.lv/ - the link for Linux4biz goes to a cPanel setup page: http://www.linux4biz.net/ - the link for Nordicsource is broken: http://www.nordicsource.se/ - the link for Spinlock Solutions goes to a broken page: http://www.spinlocksolutions.com/ In North America (http://www.postgresql.org/support/professional_support_northamerica): - surprisingly PostgreSQL Inc.'s link doesn't work: http://www.pgsql.com/ - the Free DBA Store link doesn't work: http://www.freedbastore.com/ - the link for Cube Plus Linux is broken: http://cubepluslinux.com/ In Africa (http://www.postgresql.org/support/professional_support_africa) - the link for Metatag Co Ltd. is broken: http://www.metatagweb.com/ In Asia (http://www.postgresql.org/support/professional_support_asia) - the link for BASH Technology Pte Ltd. is broken: http://www.bashtechnology.com/ - the link for Core Solutions India is now a holding page: http://www.coresolutionsindia.com/ - Goodwill Consulting is also a holding page: http://www.starprise.net/ - PT. AWAKAMI is a holding page: http://www.awakami.com/ - the link for Sai Hertz And Control Systems Pvt Ltd is broken: http://saihertz.com/ - SAJIWA is a holding page: http://www.sajiwa.com/ - TDMM.net is a holding page: http://tdmm.net/ - Unisis Solutions Corporation is a holding page: http://www.unisis.cn/ In South America (http://www.postgresql.org/support/professional_support_southamerica) - the link for Compuall Ingenieria is broken: http://www.compuall.cl/ - the link for GENOME IT LTDA is broken: http://www.genome-it.com/ - the link for Key Optimal Solutions goes to a broken page: http://www.keyos.com.bo/ - Open Software is a holding page: http://www.osis.com.ar/ Thom
On 07/11/2010 02:06 PM, Thom Brown wrote: > Just had a brief nose around the site and found some issue. thanks for taking a look - some comments follow... > > On http://www.postgresql.org/about/users the following links are broken: > > Institut de Biologie et Chimie des Protéines article removed the link (couldn't find a suitable replacement) > University of Alabama, Birmingham documentation this stuff seems to be buried down in a large pdf now - link removed > OmniTI case study this one linked to sun.com - any idea if the document is available elsewhere? > > On http://www.postgresql.org/about/quotesarchive the link to the > Database Hacker's Handbook is broken. updated > > I don't know if this right or not, but the license info on > http://www.postgresql.org/about/press/presskit84.html.en (BSD) doesn't > match the main license page: http://www.postgresql.org/about/licence > (PostgreSQL) well the licence got clarified after 8.4 was released, not sure if we should edit the presskit text after the fact - comments? > > On http://www.postgresql.org/community/international the link to the > Turkish PostgreSQL site comes up with an Apache test page: > http://www.postgresql.org.tr/ removed for now - do we know if that page is gone or just temporary down? > > The alphas page contains redundant info about 9.0a4: > http://www.postgresql.org/developer/alpha which is linked to by this > page: http://www.postgresql.org/developer/testing I don't follow - what kind of information do you find redundant on that page? Or are you actually wondering about the fact that we still have alpha information up when we are already at Beta2(3)? > > For some reason, the Turkish press kit on > http://www.postgresql.org/about/press/ is served with the text/troff > mime type. Is this normal? heh - that's triggered by the file ending and apache's mod_mime - will see what I can do about that (though I wonder why nobody noticed so far)... Stefan
On 07/11/2010 02:29 PM, Thom Brown wrote: > On 11 July 2010 13:06, Thom Brown<thombrown@gmail.com> wrote: >> Just had a brief nose around the site and found some issue. >> >> On http://www.postgresql.org/about/users the following links are broken: >> >> Institut de Biologie et Chimie des Protéines article >> University of Alabama, Birmingham documentation >> OmniTI case study >> >> On http://www.postgresql.org/about/quotesarchive the link to the >> Database Hacker's Handbook is broken. >> >> I don't know if this right or not, but the license info on >> http://www.postgresql.org/about/press/presskit84.html.en (BSD) doesn't >> match the main license page: http://www.postgresql.org/about/licence >> (PostgreSQL) >> >> On http://www.postgresql.org/community/international the link to the >> Turkish PostgreSQL site comes up with an Apache test page: >> http://www.postgresql.org.tr/ >> >> The alphas page contains redundant info about 9.0a4: >> http://www.postgresql.org/developer/alpha which is linked to by this >> page: http://www.postgresql.org/developer/testing >> >> For some reason, the Turkish press kit on >> http://www.postgresql.org/about/press/ is served with the text/troff >> mime type. Is this normal? >> >> Thom >> > > And another one, on http://www.postgresql.org/docs/books/awbook.html > the only link which works under Book Reviews is the Linux Journal one. > > Under Translations, the German translation sample chapter link is > broken, and the Japanese translation. > > Under Purchase, none of the links work. Hmm there is a lot of old stuff on that page - and given that this book is now 10 years old and was only updated to 7.3 (which is now completely unsupported by the community) I wonder if we should just get rid of the whole page? Stefan
On 11 July 2010 15:13, Stefan Kaltenbrunner <stefan@kaltenbrunner.cc> wrote: >> >> I don't know if this right or not, but the license info on >> http://www.postgresql.org/about/press/presskit84.html.en (BSD) doesn't >> match the main license page: http://www.postgresql.org/about/licence >> (PostgreSQL) > > well the licence got clarified after 8.4 was released, not sure if we should > edit the presskit text after the fact - comments? > Actually, I agree with that. It should stay. >> >> The alphas page contains redundant info about 9.0a4: >> http://www.postgresql.org/developer/alpha which is linked to by this >> page: http://www.postgresql.org/developer/testing > > I don't follow - what kind of information do you find redundant on that > page? Or are you actually wondering about the fact that we still have alpha > information up when we are already at Beta2(3)? > I just mention it as someone who doesn't know the current state of things may go to the alphas page assuming that's the latest version. I don't see any benefit in providing links to alpha builds when they're long out of date. Or at least mention that they've been preceded by betas. >> >> For some reason, the Turkish press kit on >> http://www.postgresql.org/about/press/ is served with the text/troff >> mime type. Is this normal? > > heh - that's triggered by the file ending and apache's mod_mime - will see > what I can do about that (though I wonder why nobody noticed so far)... > Thought that might be the case. Thanks Thom
On 11 July 2010 15:36, Stefan Kaltenbrunner <stefan@kaltenbrunner.cc> wrote: > > Hmm there is a lot of old stuff on that page - and given that this book is > now 10 years old and was only updated to 7.3 (which is now completely > unsupported by the community) I wonder if we should just get rid of the > whole page? > > > Stefan > This is an old page, but I noticed on http://www.postgresql.org/community/weeklynews/pwn20060319 that there's a malformed tag on line 159: "<swm@alcove.com.au>" And this seemed to have happened before too on line 152 of this page: http://www.postgresql.org/about/news.158 which reads "<jolv@genaware.com>" Is there some code somewhere that's malforming these? Thom
On 07/11/2010 07:26 PM, Thom Brown wrote: > On 11 July 2010 15:36, Stefan Kaltenbrunner<stefan@kaltenbrunner.cc> wrote: >> >> Hmm there is a lot of old stuff on that page - and given that this book is >> now 10 years old and was only updated to 7.3 (which is now completely >> unsupported by the community) I wonder if we should just get rid of the >> whole page? >> >> >> Stefan >> > > This is an old page, but I noticed on > http://www.postgresql.org/community/weeklynews/pwn20060319 that > there's a malformed tag on line 159: "<swm@alcove.com.au>" > > And this seemed to have happened before too on line 152 of this page: > http://www.postgresql.org/about/news.158 which reads > "<jolv@genaware.com>" > > Is there some code somewhere that's malforming these? yeah - I think there is and the "code" is called "the human brain" :) Both of those look like simple c&p errors by the author of the respective docs - there is no real fancy (post)processing of html output on the site (at least not for those cases). Stefan
On 11 July 2010 18:53, Stefan Kaltenbrunner <stefan@kaltenbrunner.cc> wrote: > On 07/11/2010 07:26 PM, Thom Brown wrote: >> >> On 11 July 2010 15:36, Stefan Kaltenbrunner<stefan@kaltenbrunner.cc> >> wrote: >>> >>> Hmm there is a lot of old stuff on that page - and given that this book >>> is >>> now 10 years old and was only updated to 7.3 (which is now completely >>> unsupported by the community) I wonder if we should just get rid of the >>> whole page? >>> >>> >>> Stefan >>> >> >> This is an old page, but I noticed on >> http://www.postgresql.org/community/weeklynews/pwn20060319 that >> there's a malformed tag on line 159: "<swm@alcove.com.au>" >> >> And this seemed to have happened before too on line 152 of this page: >> http://www.postgresql.org/about/news.158 which reads >> "<jolv@genaware.com>" >> >> Is there some code somewhere that's malforming these? > > yeah - I think there is and the "code" is called "the human brain" :) > > Both of those look like simple c&p errors by the author of the respective > docs - there is no real fancy (post)processing of html output on the site > (at least not for those cases). > > > Stefan > On http://wwwmaster.postgresql.org/download/mirrors-ftp I see the message "You have used this mirror before: United Kingdom" and a few seconds later, it redirects me to http://www.postgresql.org/redir/398/f/ which doesn't work. However, if I click on the UK ftp link itself, it actually uses the wwwmaster subdomain, and the rest of the URL is identical. Thom
Any idea what to do about companies with expired links on Professional Support and Hosting Solutions? Without going through them one by one, it's not clear whether they've changed their domain name, or they're no longer running. It would be nice if these could be corrected/tidied up though. Thom
On 11 July 2010 14:23, Thom Brown <thombrown@gmail.com> wrote: > On all regions listed under professional support > (http://www.postgresql.org/support/professional_support) it mentions > Sun Microsystems providing PostgreSQL support. That's not the case > anymore is it? Plus the link is no longer valid: > http://www.sun.com/postgresql > > In Europe (http://www.postgresql.org/support/professional_support_europe) > - the link for AG IT Consulting is broken: http://www.studioinf.com/ > - the link for IBS Solutions is broken: http://www.ibss.lv/ > - the link for Linux4biz goes to a cPanel setup page: http://www.linux4biz.net/ > - the link for Nordicsource is broken: http://www.nordicsource.se/ > - the link for Spinlock Solutions goes to a broken page: > http://www.spinlocksolutions.com/ > > > In North America > (http://www.postgresql.org/support/professional_support_northamerica): > - surprisingly PostgreSQL Inc.'s link doesn't work: http://www.pgsql.com/ > - the Free DBA Store link doesn't work: http://www.freedbastore.com/ > - the link for Cube Plus Linux is broken: http://cubepluslinux.com/ > > In Africa (http://www.postgresql.org/support/professional_support_africa) > - the link for Metatag Co Ltd. is broken: http://www.metatagweb.com/ > > In Asia (http://www.postgresql.org/support/professional_support_asia) > - the link for BASH Technology Pte Ltd. is broken: > http://www.bashtechnology.com/ > - the link for Core Solutions India is now a holding page: > http://www.coresolutionsindia.com/ > - Goodwill Consulting is also a holding page: http://www.starprise.net/ > - PT. AWAKAMI is a holding page: http://www.awakami.com/ > - the link for Sai Hertz And Control Systems Pvt Ltd is broken: > http://saihertz.com/ > - SAJIWA is a holding page: http://www.sajiwa.com/ > - TDMM.net is a holding page: http://tdmm.net/ > - Unisis Solutions Corporation is a holding page: http://www.unisis.cn/ > > In South America > (http://www.postgresql.org/support/professional_support_southamerica) > - the link for Compuall Ingenieria is broken: http://www.compuall.cl/ > - the link for GENOME IT LTDA is broken: http://www.genome-it.com/ > - the link for Key Optimal Solutions goes to a broken page: > http://www.keyos.com.bo/ > - Open Software is a holding page: http://www.osis.com.ar/ > > Thom > Okay I've deleted pretty much all of these from the professional services and hosting solutions pages with these exceptions: sun.com - Just in case, because for all I know they may still support it without publicising it or something. So if someone knows otherwise... pgsql.com - I've emailed Marc about this and I'm glad to say he's just fixed it, so it'll stay indefinitely. :) Thom
On 07/12/2010 05:46 AM, Thom Brown wrote:
> Any idea what to do about companies with expired links on Professional
> Support and Hosting Solutions? Without going through them one by one,
> it's not clear whether they've changed their domain name, or they're
> no longer running. It would be nice if these could be
> corrected/tidied up though.
I'll take the list you gave me and delete all of those when I get a
chance. If the companies can't bother to keep their links updated,
obviously the listing doesn't mean very much to them.
-- -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc.
http://www.pgexperts.com
>> OmniTI case study
>
> this one linked to sun.com - any idea if the document is available
> elsewhere?
I have a copy, of course, but I don't think that anyone but Sun or
Omniti can legally host it. So, Robert?
-- -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc.
http://www.pgexperts.com
On 13 July 2010 01:24, Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com> wrote: > On 07/12/2010 05:46 AM, Thom Brown wrote: >> >> Any idea what to do about companies with expired links on Professional >> Support and Hosting Solutions? Without going through them one by one, >> it's not clear whether they've changed their domain name, or they're >> no longer running. It would be nice if these could be >> corrected/tidied up though. > > I'll take the list you gave me and delete all of those when I get a chance. > If the companies can't bother to keep their links updated, obviously the > listing doesn't mean very much to them. > No, it's okay. As I said before the vast majority of those have been deleted from the site now. I went through reviewing each of them, and most of them were unresolvable, so got deleted. Thom
Hi Thom, On Sun, 2010-07-11 at 13:06 +0100, Thom Brown wrote: > On http://www.postgresql.org/community/international the link to the > Turkish PostgreSQL site comes up with an Apache test page: > http://www.postgresql.org.tr/ *Started* fixing it. There are a few more broken links in the website, but still... Thanks for the heads-up. It was broken 1.5 years ago, after I lost some data. Cheers, -- Devrim GÜNDÜZ PostgreSQL Danışmanı/Consultant, Red Hat Certified Engineer PostgreSQL RPM Repository: http://yum.pgrpms.org Community: devrim~PostgreSQL.org, devrim.gunduz~linux.org.tr http://www.gunduz.org Twitter: http://twitter.com/devrimgunduz
Hi Stefan, On Sun, 2010-07-11 at 16:13 +0200, Stefan Kaltenbrunner wrote: > > > > On http://www.postgresql.org/community/international the link to the > > Turkish PostgreSQL site comes up with an Apache test page: > > http://www.postgresql.org.tr/ > > removed for now - do we know if that page is gone or just temporary > down? It was a temp issue. Updated our website and restored link. Cheers, -- Devrim GÜNDÜZ PostgreSQL Danışmanı/Consultant, Red Hat Certified Engineer PostgreSQL RPM Repository: http://yum.pgrpms.org Community: devrim~PostgreSQL.org, devrim.gunduz~linux.org.tr http://www.gunduz.org Twitter: http://twitter.com/devrimgunduz
On Sun, 2010-07-11 at 16:13 +0200, Stefan Kaltenbrunner wrote: > > > For some reason, the Turkish press kit on > > http://www.postgresql.org/about/press/ is served with the text/troff > > mime type. Is this normal? > > heh - that's triggered by the file ending and apache's mod_mime - > will > see what I can do about that (though I wonder why nobody noticed so > far)... I remember to have pinged someone (whom I don't remember right now...) about this several times, but we could not fix it. Did you find a solution for it? -- Devrim GÜNDÜZ PostgreSQL Danışmanı/Consultant, Red Hat Certified Engineer PostgreSQL RPM Repository: http://yum.pgrpms.org Community: devrim~PostgreSQL.org, devrim.gunduz~linux.org.tr http://www.gunduz.org Twitter: http://twitter.com/devrimgunduz
2010/7/13 Devrim GÜNDÜZ <devrim@gunduz.org>: > On Sun, 2010-07-11 at 16:13 +0200, Stefan Kaltenbrunner wrote: >> >> > For some reason, the Turkish press kit on >> > http://www.postgresql.org/about/press/ is served with the text/troff >> > mime type. Is this normal? >> >> heh - that's triggered by the file ending and apache's mod_mime - >> will >> see what I can do about that (though I wonder why nobody noticed so >> far)... > > I remember to have pinged someone (whom I don't remember right now...) > about this several times, but we could not fix it. Did you find a > solution for it? > -- I'd imagine it's just a change to /etc/mime.types so that "tr" doesn't appear next to "application/x-troff" Thom
Thom Brown wrote: > 2010/7/13 Devrim GÜNDÜZ <devrim@gunduz.org>: >> On Sun, 2010-07-11 at 16:13 +0200, Stefan Kaltenbrunner wrote: >>>> For some reason, the Turkish press kit on >>>> http://www.postgresql.org/about/press/ is served with the text/troff >>>> mime type. Is this normal? >>> heh - that's triggered by the file ending and apache's mod_mime - >>> will >>> see what I can do about that (though I wonder why nobody noticed so >>> far)... >> I remember to have pinged someone (whom I don't remember right now...) >> about this several times, but we could not fix it. Did you find a >> solution for it? >> -- > > I'd imagine it's just a change to /etc/mime.types so that "tr" doesn't > appear next to "application/x-troff" that's not a solution - that is a hack :). The problem with this is that OS-updates/upgrades can easily override that changeagain - what we need to do is to get this fixed by deploying a suitable .htaccess that disables that mime-type for that directory in apache. I'm planning to fix that soon - I'm just very busy at the moment. Stefan