Обсуждение: Whitelisting?
Can we whitelist robert@pg-live.info? He's got some large headers that are tripping up majordomo, and I'm having to approve lotsa stuff. -selena -- http://chesnok.com/daily - me http://endpoint.com - work
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 8:39 AM, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com> wrote: > Selena Deckelmann escribió: >> Can we whitelist robert@pg-live.info? He's got some large headers that >> are tripping up majordomo, and I'm having to approve lotsa stuff. > > I think the right answer is to increase the header limit. I get some > moderation requests from large headers on legitimate email too. I like that solution too! The high water mark was about 500. Here's an example error message: > A MIME header is too long (444 > 256) -selena -- http://chesnok.com/daily - me http://endpoint.com - work
Selena Deckelmann escribió: > Can we whitelist robert@pg-live.info? He's got some large headers that > are tripping up majordomo, and I'm having to approve lotsa stuff. I think the right answer is to increase the header limit. I get some moderation requests from large headers on legitimate email too. -- Alvaro Herrera http://www.CommandPrompt.com/ The PostgreSQL Company - Command Prompt, Inc.
On Tue, 2 Feb 2010, Selena Deckelmann wrote: > On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 8:39 AM, Alvaro Herrera > <alvherre@commandprompt.com> wrote: >> Selena Deckelmann escribi?: >>> Can we whitelist robert@pg-live.info? He's got some large headers that >>> are tripping up majordomo, and I'm having to approve lotsa stuff. >> >> I think the right answer is to increase the header limit. I get some >> moderation requests from large headers on legitimate email too. > > I like that solution too! > > The high water mark was about 500. Here's an example error message: > >> A MIME header is too long (444 > 256) Does doubling to 512 sound okay? Or should I just go straight to 1024? thoughts? ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. scrappy@hub.org http://www.hub.org Yahoo:yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ:7615664 MSN:scrappy@hub.org
Selena Deckelmann <selenamarie@gmail.com> writes:
> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 8:39 AM, Alvaro Herrera
> <alvherre@commandprompt.com> wrote:
>> I think the right answer is to increase the header limit. �I get some
>> moderation requests from large headers on legitimate email too.
> I like that solution too!
+1. I fairly often see References: lines go over whatever-the-limit-is,
meaning that long threads bump up against moderation restrictions for
no good reason.
regards, tom lane
Marc G. Fournier escribió: > On Tue, 2 Feb 2010, Selena Deckelmann wrote: > > >On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 8:39 AM, Alvaro Herrera > ><alvherre@commandprompt.com> wrote: > >>Selena Deckelmann escribi?: > >>>Can we whitelist robert@pg-live.info? He's got some large headers that > >>>are tripping up majordomo, and I'm having to approve lotsa stuff. > >> > >>I think the right answer is to increase the header limit. I get some > >>moderation requests from large headers on legitimate email too. > > > >I like that solution too! > > > >The high water mark was about 500. Here's an example error message: > > > >> A MIME header is too long (444 > 256) > > Does doubling to 512 sound okay? Or should I just go straight to > 1024? thoughts? 1024 seems better. As Tom says, it's not that rare to see References headers getting long on some threads. -- Alvaro Herrera http://www.CommandPrompt.com/ The PostgreSQL Company - Command Prompt, Inc.
'k, note that the error below references to MIME Headers, not to regular headers, which are already @ 1024 ... DEFAULT/_config: 'max_header_line_length' => '1024', DEFAULT/_config: 'max_mime_header_length' => '256', DEFAULT/_config: 'max_total_header_length' => 4096, Is there a reason why somone would have an odd lengthed MIME header? Odd length being one that actually seems to trigger the check ... On Tue, 2 Feb 2010, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > Marc G. Fournier escribi?: >> On Tue, 2 Feb 2010, Selena Deckelmann wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 8:39 AM, Alvaro Herrera >>> <alvherre@commandprompt.com> wrote: >>>> Selena Deckelmann escribi?: >>>>> Can we whitelist robert@pg-live.info? He's got some large headers that >>>>> are tripping up majordomo, and I'm having to approve lotsa stuff. >>>> >>>> I think the right answer is to increase the header limit. I get some >>>> moderation requests from large headers on legitimate email too. >>> >>> I like that solution too! >>> >>> The high water mark was about 500. Here's an example error message: >>> >>>> A MIME header is too long (444 > 256) >> >> Does doubling to 512 sound okay? Or should I just go straight to >> 1024? thoughts? > > 1024 seems better. As Tom says, it's not that rare to see References > headers getting long on some threads. > > -- > Alvaro Herrera http://www.CommandPrompt.com/ > The PostgreSQL Company - Command Prompt, Inc. > ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. scrappy@hub.org http://www.hub.org Yahoo:yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ:7615664 MSN:scrappy@hub.org
2010/2/2 Selena Deckelmann <selenamarie@gmail.com>: > On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 8:39 AM, Alvaro Herrera > <alvherre@commandprompt.com> wrote: >> Selena Deckelmann escribió: >>> Can we whitelist robert@pg-live.info? He's got some large headers that >>> are tripping up majordomo, and I'm having to approve lotsa stuff. >> >> I think the right answer is to increase the header limit. I get some >> moderation requests from large headers on legitimate email too. > > I like that solution too! > > The high water mark was about 500. Here's an example error message: > >> A MIME header is too long (444 > 256) Out of curiosity: what header is that long? -- Magnus HaganderMe: http://www.hagander.net/Work: http://www.redpill-linpro.com/
<p>Is there any evidence that spammers use longer headers than non-spammers?<p>Incidentally my earlier post to pgsql-advocacywas initially refused due to being over the message limit. I had to reduce the image quality to get out through.<p>These days I think spammers try to make short messages and headers in an effort to avoid any signals which catchtheir messages.<br /><br /><p>greg<p><blockquote type="cite">On 2 Feb 2010 20:18, "Marc G. Fournier" <<a href="mailto:scrappy@hub.org">scrappy@hub.org</a>>wrote:<br /><br /><p><font color="#500050">On Tue, 2 Feb 2010, SelenaDeckelmann wrote:<br /></font><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p><fontcolor="#500050">> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 8:39 AM, Alvaro Herrera<br />> <<a href="mailto:alvherre@commandprompt.com">alvherre@commandprompt.com</a>>wrote:</font><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:00 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Selena Deckelmann escribi?:<p><font color="#500050"><br/>>>><br />>>> Can we whitelist <a href="mailto:robert@pg-live.info">robert@pg-live.info</a>?He's got some large headers that<br />>>> are trippingup ...</font></blockquote><p><font color="#500050">><br />><br />> I like that solution too!<br />><br/>> The high water mark was about 500. Here's an example error messa...</font></blockquote><br /> Does doublingto 512 sound okay? Or should I just go straight to 1024? thoughts?<br /><br /> ----<br /> Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A.<br /><a href="mailto:scrappy@hub.org" target="_blank">scrappy@hub.org</a> <a href="http://www.hub.org" target="_blank">http://www.hub.org</a><br/><br /> Yahoo:yscrappy Skype: <a href="http://hub.org" target="_blank">hub.org</a> ICQ:7615664 <a href="mailto:MSN%3Ascrappy@hub.org" target="_blank">MSN:scrappy@hub.org</a><p><fontcolor="#500050"><br /><br />-- <br />Sent via pgsql-www mailing list (<a href="mailto:pgsql-www@postgresql.org">pgsql-www@postgresql.org</a>)<br/> To make changes to your subscriptio...</font></blockquote>
Greg Stark escribió: > Is there any evidence that spammers use longer headers than non-spammers? > > Incidentally my earlier post to pgsql-advocacy was initially refused due to > being over the message limit. I had to reduce the image quality to get out > through. > > These days I think spammers try to make short messages and headers in an > effort to avoid any signals which catch their messages. Yeah, they go great lengths to ensure their messages pass through SpamAssassin clean. These checks seem to me to be pretty useless -- they only ever catch legitimate email. Invalid email is caught much earlier (before it gets to the moderator), or not at all. -- Alvaro Herrera http://www.CommandPrompt.com/ PostgreSQL Replication, Consulting, Custom Development, 24x7 support
max_mime header size raised to 1024 ... On Tue, 2 Feb 2010, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > Greg Stark escribi?: >> Is there any evidence that spammers use longer headers than non-spammers? >> >> Incidentally my earlier post to pgsql-advocacy was initially refused due to >> being over the message limit. I had to reduce the image quality to get out >> through. >> >> These days I think spammers try to make short messages and headers in an >> effort to avoid any signals which catch their messages. > > Yeah, they go great lengths to ensure their messages pass through > SpamAssassin clean. These checks seem to me to be pretty useless -- > they only ever catch legitimate email. Invalid email is caught much > earlier (before it gets to the moderator), or not at all. > > -- > Alvaro Herrera http://www.CommandPrompt.com/ > PostgreSQL Replication, Consulting, Custom Development, 24x7 support > ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. scrappy@hub.org http://www.hub.org Yahoo:yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ:7615664 MSN:scrappy@hub.org