Обсуждение: [Fwd: Brussels 2005-02-17: Software Patents Showdown]
Hi all, Are we ok to put something about the approaching patent problem on the website for a while again (as mentioned in the message below)? I'm thinking we could use this for our first test of replacing the main message, as PG 8 has been out for about a month now. Regards and best wishes, Justin Clift -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Brussels 2005-02-17: Software Patents Showdown Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 02:15:14 +0100 From: FFII <feedback@ffii.org> To: justin@postgresql.org Dear FFII supporter[1], It is time to stand up for European democracy. Talk to your government. Join the demonstration. There will be a major confrontation in Brussels on February 17th 2005 ( see http://demo.ffii.org/demo0502/ ). Last week, the European Parliament's Legal Affairs (JURI) Committee asked to restart the legislative process on software patents, but this request is still in danger: - The EU Council is planning to adopt its outdated "political agreement" on software patents at a meeting of the finance ministers on February 17th. Poland can not be expected to stop it again on its own. Another country has to take the initiative (but will receive support from Poland). - Once the Council adopts its "agreement", the Commission may choose to ignore the Parliament's request for a restart of the procedure. - We can not be sure that under such circumstances the European Parliament's Conference of Presidents (which also meets on the 17th) will opt for a confrontation. Thus it is still possible that we end up with a 2nd reading, with all its dangers[2]. In this critical situation we need your help. If you reply to this mail and tick any of the following items, we will try to provide some assistance and coordination. [ ] I will try to contact my national government and ask them to oppose a Council meeting agenda containing the software patent directive, at least not before the Commission has answered the European Parliament's request, or/and to ask for renegotiation in the Council (B-item). [ ] I will try to contact the European Commission and ask them to answer the European Parliament's request ASAP. [ ] I will try to come to Brussels on February 17th to join the demonstration and press conference [ ] I would like to call on MEPs to join the demo / press conference [ ] I would like to contact media and press agencies. [ ] I will help organise car pools or busses from my region to Brussels. (Note: for Paris rather use the wiki at http://mm.ffii.org/CoachParis050217Fr) [ ] I will place a banner or protest page on my website and register my participation via the aktiv web interface[3] [ ] I will contact some important websites and ask them to participate [ ] I will donate (http://donate.ffii.org/) We hope to hear from you and to see you in Brussels. -- Holger Blasum, Christian Cornelssen, Benjamin Henrion, Erik Josefsson, Felix Klee, Jonas Maebe, Jan Wildeboer [1] This mail was sent to justinu in https://aktiv.ffii.org/ [2] http://swpat.ffii.org/letters/juri0502/ [3] http://www.ffii.org/ffii-cgi/eintrag?m=netstrike -- "One who sees the invisible can do the impossible." + Frank Gaines
I think it is too early to remove the 8.0 announcement. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Justin Clift wrote: > Hi all, > > Are we ok to put something about the approaching patent problem on the > website for a while again (as mentioned in the message below)? > > I'm thinking we could use this for our first test of replacing the main > message, as PG 8 has been out for about a month now. > > Regards and best wishes, > > Justin Clift > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Brussels 2005-02-17: Software Patents Showdown > Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 02:15:14 +0100 > From: FFII <feedback@ffii.org> > To: justin@postgresql.org > > Dear FFII supporter[1], > > It is time to stand up for European democracy. Talk to > your government. Join the demonstration. There will be > a major confrontation in Brussels on February 17th 2005 > ( see http://demo.ffii.org/demo0502/ ). > > Last week, the European Parliament's Legal Affairs (JURI) > Committee asked to restart the legislative process on software > patents, but this request is still in danger: > > - The EU Council is planning to adopt its outdated "political > agreement" on software patents at a meeting of the finance > ministers on February 17th. Poland can not be expected to > stop it again on its own. Another country has to take the > initiative (but will receive support from Poland). > > - Once the Council adopts its "agreement", the Commission may > choose to ignore the Parliament's request for a restart of the > procedure. > > - We can not be sure that under such circumstances the European > Parliament's Conference of Presidents (which also meets on > the 17th) will opt for a confrontation. > > Thus it is still possible that we end up with a 2nd reading, > with all its dangers[2]. > > In this critical situation we need your help. > > If you reply to this mail and tick any of the following items, > we will try to provide some assistance and coordination. > > [ ] I will try to contact my national government and ask them to > oppose a Council meeting agenda containing the software > patent directive, at least not before the Commission has > answered the European Parliament's request, or/and to ask > for renegotiation in the Council (B-item). > > [ ] I will try to contact the European Commission and ask them > to answer the European Parliament's request ASAP. > > [ ] I will try to come to Brussels on February 17th to join the > demonstration and press conference > > [ ] I would like to call on MEPs to join the demo / press > conference > > [ ] I would like to contact media and press agencies. > > [ ] I will help organise car pools or busses from my region > to Brussels. (Note: for Paris rather use the wiki at > http://mm.ffii.org/CoachParis050217Fr) > > [ ] I will place a banner or protest page on my website and > register my participation via the aktiv web interface[3] > > [ ] I will contact some important websites and ask them to > participate > > [ ] I will donate (http://donate.ffii.org/) > > We hope to hear from you and to see you in Brussels. > > -- > Holger Blasum, Christian Cornelssen, Benjamin Henrion, Erik > Josefsson, Felix Klee, Jonas Maebe, Jan Wildeboer > > [1] This mail was sent to justinu in https://aktiv.ffii.org/ > [2] http://swpat.ffii.org/letters/juri0502/ > [3] http://www.ffii.org/ffii-cgi/eintrag?m=netstrike > > -- > "One who sees the invisible can do the impossible." > + Frank Gaines > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster > -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001 + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073
Actually I think the bigger problem is that we now have 8.0.1 out and yet looking at the main page you would have no idea that such a thing exists. We should probably change the message to mention the new revision level releases since we don't seem to be making any progress on a scheme to show the most current versions on the front page. On Wednesday 09 February 2005 23:10, Bruce Momjian wrote: > I think it is too early to remove the 8.0 announcement. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Justin Clift wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > Are we ok to put something about the approaching patent problem on the > > website for a while again (as mentioned in the message below)? > > > > I'm thinking we could use this for our first test of replacing the main > > message, as PG 8 has been out for about a month now. > > > > Regards and best wishes, > > > > Justin Clift > > > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > Subject: Brussels 2005-02-17: Software Patents Showdown > > Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 02:15:14 +0100 > > From: FFII <feedback@ffii.org> > > To: justin@postgresql.org > > > > Dear FFII supporter[1], > > > > It is time to stand up for European democracy. Talk to > > your government. Join the demonstration. There will be > > a major confrontation in Brussels on February 17th 2005 > > ( see http://demo.ffii.org/demo0502/ ). > > <snip> -- Robert Treat Build A Brighter Lamp :: Linux Apache {middleware} PostgreSQL
> Actually I think the bigger problem is that we now have 8.0.1 > out and yet looking at the main page you would have no idea > that such a thing exists. We should probably change the > message to mention the new revision level releases since we > don't seem to be making any progress on a scheme to show the > most current versions on the front page. I think it was discussed before to list the most recent versions in at least the "current version" (for now, I guess 8.0.1 and 7.4.7, possibly even the 7.3 release series). Not being a designer, how about a short section above "Shortcuts" for that? There seems to be a bunch of empty space below it that it can be moved to. Just a simple list of "latest versions" with a link to the download page seems reasonable? (And no, I can't give an example. Someone who knows where to stuff that into the design to make it appear on the right place would have to do that, and I don't.) //Magnus
Magnus Hagander wrote: > I think it was discussed before to list the most recent versions in at > least the "current version" (for now, I guess 8.0.1 and 7.4.7, possibly > even the 7.3 release series). I'm adding this to the front page. It's not necessary for 8.0.1, but the orange headline should also be changed to reflect major/minor releases (8.X). Emily