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Comment 1966 added to page ddl-alter.html of version 7.4

От
nobody
Дата:
Author: Alex French <alexfrench@gmail.com>
----
Note that pg does not support changing the type of a column. Instead, use something like the code below to change, say,
avarchar(32) into varchar(64) (assuming the collumn is called abc): 

BEGIN;
ALTER TABLE mytable ADD COLUMN abc_new varchar(64);
UPDATE mytable SET abc_new = abc;
ALTER TABLE mytable RENAME abc TO abc_old;
ALTER TABLE mytable RENAME abc_new TO abc;
COMMIT;

If you're chaning the type of the column radically, you need to do more fancy type casting, but that's the theory.
----
Manual page: http://wwwmaster.postgresql.org/docs/7.4/interactive/ddl-alter.html
Reject:      http://wwwmaster.postgresql.org/admin/comments.php?action=reject&id=1966
Edit:        http://wwwmaster.postgresql.org/admin/comment-edit.php?id=1966
Delete:      http://wwwmaster.postgresql.org/admin/comments.php?action=delete&id=1966


Comments to www list

От
Bruce Momjian
Дата:
Are we going to continue to see all interactive document comments posted
to the www list?

---------------------------------------------------------------------------

nobody wrote:
> Author: Alex French <alexfrench@gmail.com>
> ----
> Note that pg does not support changing the type of a column. Instead, use something like the code below to change,
say,a varchar(32) into varchar(64) (assuming the collumn is called abc): 
>
> BEGIN;
> ALTER TABLE mytable ADD COLUMN abc_new varchar(64);
> UPDATE mytable SET abc_new = abc;
> ALTER TABLE mytable RENAME abc TO abc_old;
> ALTER TABLE mytable RENAME abc_new TO abc;
> COMMIT;
>
> If you're chaning the type of the column radically, you need to do more fancy type casting, but that's the theory.
> ----
> Manual page: http://wwwmaster.postgresql.org/docs/7.4/interactive/ddl-alter.html
> Reject:      http://wwwmaster.postgresql.org/admin/comments.php?action=reject&id=1966
> Edit:        http://wwwmaster.postgresql.org/admin/comment-edit.php?id=1966
> Delete:      http://wwwmaster.postgresql.org/admin/comments.php?action=delete&id=1966
>
>
> ---------------------------(end of broadcast)---------------------------
> TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
>

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Re: Comments to www list

От
Oleg Bartunov
Дата:
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005, Bruce Momjian wrote:

>
> Are we going to continue to see all interactive document comments posted
> to the www list?
>

I'd like to see them in separate phorum "PostgreSQL documentation discussions",
or just redirect them to separate mailing list.


> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> nobody wrote:
>> Author: Alex French <alexfrench@gmail.com>
>> ----
>> Note that pg does not support changing the type of a column. Instead, use something like the code below to change,
say,a varchar(32) into varchar(64) (assuming the collumn is called abc): 
>>
>> BEGIN;
>> ALTER TABLE mytable ADD COLUMN abc_new varchar(64);
>> UPDATE mytable SET abc_new = abc;
>> ALTER TABLE mytable RENAME abc TO abc_old;
>> ALTER TABLE mytable RENAME abc_new TO abc;
>> COMMIT;
>>
>> If you're chaning the type of the column radically, you need to do more fancy type casting, but that's the theory.
>> ----
>> Manual page: http://wwwmaster.postgresql.org/docs/7.4/interactive/ddl-alter.html
>> Reject:      http://wwwmaster.postgresql.org/admin/comments.php?action=reject&id=1966
>> Edit:        http://wwwmaster.postgresql.org/admin/comment-edit.php?id=1966
>> Delete:      http://wwwmaster.postgresql.org/admin/comments.php?action=delete&id=1966
>>
>>
>> ---------------------------(end of broadcast)---------------------------
>> TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
>>
>
>

     Regards,
         Oleg
_____________________________________________________________
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Sternberg Astronomical Institute, Moscow University (Russia)
Internet: oleg@sai.msu.su, http://www.sai.msu.su/~megera/
phone: +007(095)939-16-83, +007(095)939-23-83

Re: Comments to www list

От
Bruce Momjian
Дата:
Oleg Bartunov wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Jan 2005, Bruce Momjian wrote:
>
> >
> > Are we going to continue to see all interactive document comments posted
> > to the www list?
> >
>
> I'd like to see them in separate phorum "PostgreSQL documentation discussions",
> or just redirect them to separate mailing list.

Ageed.  They would make more sense going to the docs list or a separate
list.

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Re: Comments to www list

От
Robert Treat
Дата:
On Wednesday 05 January 2005 15:13, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> Oleg Bartunov wrote:
> > On Wed, 5 Jan 2005, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > > Are we going to continue to see all interactive document comments
> > > posted to the www list?
> >
> > I'd like to see them in separate phorum "PostgreSQL documentation
> > discussions", or just redirect them to separate mailing list.
>
> Ageed.  They would make more sense going to the docs list or a separate
> list.

Previous discussion's led to people on the docs list not wanting to see them,
and all the people who moderate them being on www so we left them here
thinking folks could set up mail filters to junk them if they wanted.

It does seem a number of people are complaining, so if you want to reopen the
issue I suppose we could.  Ideally it could wait till after 8.0 is released?

--
Robert Treat
Build A Brighter Lamp :: Linux Apache {middleware} PostgreSQL

Re: Comments to www list

От
Bruce Momjian
Дата:
Robert Treat wrote:
> On Wednesday 05 January 2005 15:13, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > Oleg Bartunov wrote:
> > > On Wed, 5 Jan 2005, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > > > Are we going to continue to see all interactive document comments
> > > > posted to the www list?
> > >
> > > I'd like to see them in separate phorum "PostgreSQL documentation
> > > discussions", or just redirect them to separate mailing list.
> >
> > Ageed.  They would make more sense going to the docs list or a separate
> > list.
>
> Previous discussion's led to people on the docs list not wanting to see them,
> and all the people who moderate them being on www so we left them here
> thinking folks could set up mail filters to junk them if they wanted.
>
> It does seem a number of people are complaining, so if you want to reopen the
> issue I suppose we could.  Ideally it could wait till after 8.0 is released?

What filter should I use, nobody@?

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Re: Comments to www list

От
"Marc G. Fournier"
Дата:
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005, Bruce Momjian wrote:

> Robert Treat wrote:
>> On Wednesday 05 January 2005 15:13, Bruce Momjian wrote:
>>> Oleg Bartunov wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 5 Jan 2005, Bruce Momjian wrote:
>>>>> Are we going to continue to see all interactive document comments
>>>>> posted to the www list?
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to see them in separate phorum "PostgreSQL documentation
>>>> discussions", or just redirect them to separate mailing list.
>>>
>>> Ageed.  They would make more sense going to the docs list or a separate
>>> list.
>>
>> Previous discussion's led to people on the docs list not wanting to see them,
>> and all the people who moderate them being on www so we left them here
>> thinking folks could set up mail filters to junk them if they wanted.
>>
>> It does seem a number of people are complaining, so if you want to reopen the
>> issue I suppose we could.  Ideally it could wait till after 8.0 is released?
>
> What filter should I use, nobody@?

We could setup a seperate list for "administrative traffic" like the
comments, news items, etc ... ?

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Re: Comment 1966 added to page ddl-alter.html of version

От
Justin Clift
Дата:
nobody wrote:
> Author: Alex French <alexfrench@gmail.com>
> ----
> Note that pg does not support changing the type of a column. Instead, use something like the code below to change,
say,a varchar(32) into varchar(64) (assuming the collumn is called abc): 

Hi all,

PG 8 allows for changing the column type doesn't it, as one of the
"important new features"?

Regards and best wishes,

Justin Clift


<snip>

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  + Frank Gaines

Re: Comments to www list

От
Justin Clift
Дата:
Marc G. Fournier wrote:
<snip>
> We could setup a seperate list for "administrative traffic" like the
> comments, news items, etc ... ?

Sounds appropriate

pgsql-slavestothewww ?  ;)

Regards and best wishes,

Justin Clift

--
"One who sees the invisible can do the impossible."
  + Frank Gaines

Re: Comments to www list

От
Justin Clift
Дата:
Bruce Momjian wrote:
> Are we going to continue to see all interactive document comments posted
> to the www list?

As a person that does the approving/rejecting/etc of these comments,
having an email about them is really useful and welcome.

But, since it seems like it's annoying most others, then maybe we should
have a mailing list setup for them?

Regards and best wishes,

Justin Clift

--
"One who sees the invisible can do the impossible."
  + Frank Gaines

Re: Comments to www list

От
"Marc G. Fournier"
Дата:
On Thu, 6 Jan 2005, Justin Clift wrote:

> Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> <snip>
>> We could setup a seperate list for "administrative traffic" like the
>> comments, news items, etc ... ?
>
> Sounds appropriate
>
> pgsql-slavestothewww ?  ;)

I was thinking more on the lines of pgsql-www-admin ... but the above
would work too ;)

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Re: Comments to www list

От
Josh Berkus
Дата:
Marc,

> We could setup a seperate list for "administrative traffic" like the
> comments, news items, etc ... ?

Speaking of which, what happened to sysadmins@postgresql.org?   Did we get
that set up?

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Re: Comments to www list

От
"Marc G. Fournier"
Дата:
On Thu, 6 Jan 2005, Josh Berkus wrote:

> Marc,
>
>> We could setup a seperate list for "administrative traffic" like the
>> comments, news items, etc ... ?
>
> Speaking of which, what happened to sysadmins@postgresql.org?   Did we get
> that set up?

Must have missed that request ... I know there was talk about it, but it
seemed that there wasn't a decision on under which domain it should be ...
who should be the owner for it?

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Re: Comments to www list

От
Josh Berkus
Дата:
Marc,

> Must have missed that request ... I know there was talk about it, but it
> seemed that there wasn't a decision on under which domain it should be ...
> who should be the owner for it?

I can own it.   I'll set up a list under one of my domains, and if I get the
sub and unsub messages, then I can make sure that the "emergency" list
matches the live list.

--Josh

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