Обсуждение: Re: [BUGS] [Feed-back] Installing PostgreSQL 8.0.0 on SPARC/Solaris. Configure and install issues.
Rolf Sponsel <Rolf.Sponsel@kstr.lth.se> writes: > From my understanding, the preferred way > for Solaris is to only set LD_RUN_PATH, > and avoid setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH, at > link-time. This is what I usually do. No, the preferred thing is to set -rpath within the executable, which we do already (see Makefile.solaris). It's possible that you need to modify rpathdir to include /usr/local/ssl/lib and /usr/local/lib, but I'd think that indicates fairly serious brain damage in Solaris' runtime loader. We have many other Solaris users and none of them have complained of this, so I wonder if you don't have something misconfigured. > 1). If I run './configure --with-pam --with-ssl' with > LD_RUN_PATH = '/usr/local/ssl/lib:/usr/local/lib' > configure will fail to find the ssl libs, if I do > not have LD_LIBRARY_PATH set. See configure's --with-libraries option. regards, tom lane
Re: [BUGS] [Feed-back] Installing PostgreSQL 8.0.0 on SPARC/Solaris. Configure and install issues.
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Tom Lane wrote: > Rolf Sponsel <Rolf.Sponsel@kstr.lth.se> writes: > > From my understanding, the preferred way > > for Solaris is to only set LD_RUN_PATH, > > and avoid setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH, at > > link-time. This is what I usually do. > > No, the preferred thing is to set -rpath within the executable, which > we do already (see Makefile.solaris). The problem with that is that it doesn't take effect for the run-time tests run within configure. -- Peter Eisentraut http://developer.postgresql.org/~petere/
Okay, I've now succeeded to build with default runtime paths built/linked in, although not using the optimal solution (see end of this message). Please see further comments in-lined below ... Rolf Sponsel, 2005-02-04 23:26 GMT +01:00, wrote: > > Tom Lane, 2005-02-01 04:45 GMT +01:00, wrote: > >> Rolf Sponsel <Rolf.Sponsel@kstr.lth.se> writes: >> >>> From my understanding, the preferred way >>> for Solaris is to only set LD_RUN_PATH, >>> and avoid setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH, at >>> link-time. This is what I usually do. > > And usually works very well. > >> No, the preferred thing is to set -rpath within the executable, When using the Sun linker the preferred way is to use the '-R' flag. >> which we do already (see Makefile.solaris). Yes, you do (via "rpath = -Wl,-R$(rpathdir)" but you fail to set the proper library paths, i.e. the value of rpathdirs (which indirectly was confirmed by Tom Lane). > > ... DELETED ... > > I you get the '-R' option right, for the Solaris Platform, You have gotten the '-R' flag right in Makefile.solaris, but fail to feed it with the correct argument(s), as mentioned above. > I guess(!?) the Sun linker takes care of LD_RUN_PATH etc. No need to guess anymore. Here is the answer, taken from the Sun ld man page (for Solaris 7); an this is why the build scripts fail to incorporate the default runtime paths explicitly specified by me via LD_RUN_PATH: ... LD_RUN_PATH An alternative mechanism for specifying a runpath to the link-editor (see -R option). If both LD_RUN_PATH and the -R option are specified, -R supersedes. ... > >> It's possible that you need to >> modify rpathdir to include /usr/local/ssl/lib and /usr/local/lib, Correct! One needs to modify the "rpathdir", although I don't know how to do this, and this should be taken care of automagically by the build scripts. > Well, if nothing else, I'd take this "possibility" > as an indication of a "broken" configure process. > > Sorry, never heard of rpathdir (on Solaris)!? Okay, I see, this is not a Solaris specific parameter, it's a build related parameter. >> but I'd think that indicates fairly serious brain damage in Solaris' >> runtime loader. > > > I'd be interested in knowing from what > point of view you make that conclusion? > > ... DELETED ... > > And I really hope I didn't just > suffer from a "brain outage"!!? :-) Seems like I had a tiny one anyhow :-) * * * * * BUG 1: When building postgresql-8.0.0 on SPARC/Solaris 7, compiling with gcc-3.2.2, and linking with the Sun linker '/usr/ccs/bin/ld', no default runtime paths (other than '/usr/local/pgsql/lib') are "hard-wired" into the executables and shared libraries. This regardless of whether runtime paths have been explicitly specified via LD_RUN_PATH, or not. FIX 1: (Preferred) Make sure to provide necessary runtime paths to the linker, e.g. via the rpathdir macro/variable. In order to provide additional flexibility, and for becoming backward compatible with comon procedures on the Solaris platform, it would be even better to derive the value for rpathdir from the environment variable LD_RUN_PATH whenever it's been defined. * * * BUG 2: The current configure script doesn't automagically detect an OpenSSL installation that resided in the default location (i.e. '/usr/local/ssl', when built from source with gcc on Solaris), without having to explicitly specify the location of OpenSSL via the configure options '--with-libraries=/usr/local/ssl/lib' and '--with-includes='/usr/local/ssl/include' when enabling SSL/TLS support via '--with-openssl'. FIX 2: (Preferred) To be considered "well-behaving" it should manage to automagically detect OpenSSL installed in the default location (and also supply a default runtime path, to the OpenSSL libraries, to the Sun linker). For non-standard situations, when OpenSSL does not reside in one of it's default locations, it would be preferrable to have the possibility to specify the location as an argument to the '--with-openssl' option, e.g. like '--with-openssl=/non-std/loc/ssl'. * * * * * INTERIM SOLUTION in order to BUILD PostgreSQL 8.0.0 with default runtime paths "hard-wired" into shared libraries and executables (until the bugs described above have been fixed). As I haven't figured out how to explicitly specify the runtime paths via "rpathdir" I'll use the 2'nd best approach, according to my knowledge, i.e. by replacing the "rpath = -Wl,-R$(rpathdir)" statement (found in 'src/makefiles/Makefile.solaris') with "rpath =", which is responsible for not succeeding when using LD_RUN_PATH. Step by step instructions: myhost(1)# wget -nv ftp://..../postgresql-8.0.0.tgz myhost(2)# tar zxvf postgresql-8.0.0.tgz myhost(3)# cd postgresql-8.0.0 myhost(4)# echo $PATH /usr/local/bin:/usr/ccs/bin:/usr/dt/bin:/usr/openwin/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/bi\ n:/usr/xpg4/bin:/usr/ucb myhost(5)# setenv LD_RUN_PATH /usr/local/pgsql/lib:/usr/local/ssl/lib:/usr/local/lib myhost(6)# myhost(6)# echo "PATCH for src/makefiles/Makefile.solaris" > /dev/null myhost(7)# cp -p src/makefiles/Makefile.solaris src/makefiles/Makefile.solaris-GENERIC myhost(8)# echo "Now EDIT src/makefiles/Makefile.solaris before proceeding" > /dev/null myhost(9)# diff src/makefiles/Makefile.solaris-GENERIC src/makefiles/Makefile.solaris 9c9 < rpath = -Wl,-R$(rpathdir) --- > rpath = myhost(10)# myhost(10)# unsetenv LD_LIBRARY_PATH myhost(11)# myhost(11)# ./configure --with-pam --with-openssl --with-libraries=/usr/local/ssl/lib --with-includes=/usr/local/ssl/include myhost(12)# make myhost(13)# make install ... and you should be done, and there should be no need to either set LD_LIBRARY_PATH, nor to include '/usr/local/lib' and '/usr/local/ssl/lib' in your system's runtime path(s), e.g. via clre [or whatever it is called on Solaris 8,9,10?]. * * * * * Hope this helps at least someone! And, YES, this *is* a BUG REPORT! ;-) And, Feed-back is very welcome too! :-) Regards -- ---- ------ -------- Rolf Sponsel ___________________________________________e_n_d___o_f___m_e_s_s_a_g_e_
I have waded through this email and the suggestion seems to be that on Solaris we should add rpathdir based on the LD_RUN_PATH value at the time of compile. While this might be common on Solaris, I am not excited about implementing it because it changes compile behavior based on an environment variable, and this is typically not done on other platforms. I have also not seen similar complains from other Solaris users. If that changes, we can revisit the issue. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rolf Sponsel wrote: > Okay, I've now succeeded to build with > default runtime paths built/linked in, > although not using the optimal solution > (see end of this message). > > Please see further comments in-lined below ... > > Rolf Sponsel, 2005-02-04 23:26 GMT +01:00, wrote: > > > > > Tom Lane, 2005-02-01 04:45 GMT +01:00, wrote: > > > >> Rolf Sponsel <Rolf.Sponsel@kstr.lth.se> writes: > >> > >>> From my understanding, the preferred way > >>> for Solaris is to only set LD_RUN_PATH, > >>> and avoid setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH, at > >>> link-time. This is what I usually do. > > > > And usually works very well. > > > >> No, the preferred thing is to set -rpath within the executable, > > When using the Sun linker the preferred way is to use the '-R' flag. > > >> which we do already (see Makefile.solaris). > > Yes, you do (via "rpath = -Wl,-R$(rpathdir)" > but you fail to set the proper library paths, > i.e. the value of rpathdirs (which indirectly > was confirmed by Tom Lane). > > > > > ... DELETED ... > > > > I you get the '-R' option right, for the Solaris Platform, > > You have gotten the '-R' flag right in Makefile.solaris, > but fail to feed it with the correct argument(s), as > mentioned above. > > > I guess(!?) the Sun linker takes care of LD_RUN_PATH etc. > > No need to guess anymore. Here is the answer, taken from > the Sun ld man page (for Solaris 7); an this is why the > build scripts fail to incorporate the default runtime > paths explicitly specified by me via LD_RUN_PATH: > > ... > LD_RUN_PATH > An alternative mechanism for specifying a runpath > to the link-editor (see -R option). If both > LD_RUN_PATH and the -R option are specified, -R > supersedes. > ... > > > > >> It's possible that you need to > >> modify rpathdir to include /usr/local/ssl/lib and /usr/local/lib, > > Correct! One needs to modify the "rpathdir", although I > don't know how to do this, and this should be taken care > of automagically by the build scripts. > > > Well, if nothing else, I'd take this "possibility" > > as an indication of a "broken" configure process. > > > > Sorry, never heard of rpathdir (on Solaris)!? > > Okay, I see, this is not a Solaris specific > parameter, it's a build related parameter. > > >> but I'd think that indicates fairly serious brain damage in Solaris' > >> runtime loader. > > > > > > I'd be interested in knowing from what > > point of view you make that conclusion? > > > > ... DELETED ... > > > > And I really hope I didn't just > > suffer from a "brain outage"!!? :-) > > Seems like I had a tiny one anyhow :-) > > * * * * * > > BUG 1: > > When building postgresql-8.0.0 on SPARC/Solaris 7, > compiling with gcc-3.2.2, and linking with the Sun > linker '/usr/ccs/bin/ld', no default runtime paths > (other than '/usr/local/pgsql/lib') are "hard-wired" > into the executables and shared libraries. > > This regardless of whether runtime paths have been > explicitly specified via LD_RUN_PATH, or not. > > FIX 1: (Preferred) > > Make sure to provide necessary runtime paths to the > linker, e.g. via the rpathdir macro/variable. > > In order to provide additional flexibility, and for > becoming backward compatible with comon procedures > on the Solaris platform, it would be even better to > derive the value for rpathdir from the environment > variable LD_RUN_PATH whenever it's been defined. > > * * * > > BUG 2: > > The current configure script doesn't automagically > detect an OpenSSL installation that resided in the > default location (i.e. '/usr/local/ssl', when built > from source with gcc on Solaris), without having to > explicitly specify the location of OpenSSL via the > configure options '--with-libraries=/usr/local/ssl/lib' > and '--with-includes='/usr/local/ssl/include' when > enabling SSL/TLS support via '--with-openssl'. > > FIX 2: (Preferred) > > To be considered "well-behaving" it should manage > to automagically detect OpenSSL installed in the > default location (and also supply a default runtime > path, to the OpenSSL libraries, to the Sun linker). > > For non-standard situations, when OpenSSL does not > reside in one of it's default locations, it would > be preferrable to have the possibility to specify > the location as an argument to the '--with-openssl' > option, e.g. like '--with-openssl=/non-std/loc/ssl'. > > * * * * * > > INTERIM SOLUTION in order to BUILD PostgreSQL 8.0.0 > with default runtime paths "hard-wired" into shared > libraries and executables (until the bugs described > above have been fixed). > > As I haven't figured out how to explicitly specify > the runtime paths via "rpathdir" I'll use the 2'nd > best approach, according to my knowledge, i.e. by > replacing the "rpath = -Wl,-R$(rpathdir)" statement > (found in 'src/makefiles/Makefile.solaris') with > "rpath =", which is responsible for not succeeding > when using LD_RUN_PATH. > > Step by step instructions: > > myhost(1)# wget -nv ftp://..../postgresql-8.0.0.tgz > myhost(2)# tar zxvf postgresql-8.0.0.tgz > myhost(3)# cd postgresql-8.0.0 > myhost(4)# echo $PATH > /usr/local/bin:/usr/ccs/bin:/usr/dt/bin:/usr/openwin/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/bi\ > n:/usr/xpg4/bin:/usr/ucb > myhost(5)# setenv LD_RUN_PATH > /usr/local/pgsql/lib:/usr/local/ssl/lib:/usr/local/lib > myhost(6)# > myhost(6)# echo "PATCH for src/makefiles/Makefile.solaris" > /dev/null > myhost(7)# cp -p src/makefiles/Makefile.solaris > src/makefiles/Makefile.solaris-GENERIC > myhost(8)# echo "Now EDIT src/makefiles/Makefile.solaris before > proceeding" > /dev/null > myhost(9)# diff src/makefiles/Makefile.solaris-GENERIC > src/makefiles/Makefile.solaris > 9c9 > < rpath = -Wl,-R$(rpathdir) > --- > > rpath = > myhost(10)# > myhost(10)# unsetenv LD_LIBRARY_PATH > myhost(11)# > myhost(11)# ./configure --with-pam --with-openssl > --with-libraries=/usr/local/ssl/lib --with-includes=/usr/local/ssl/include > myhost(12)# make > myhost(13)# make install > > ... and you should be done, > and there should be no need > to either set LD_LIBRARY_PATH, > nor to include '/usr/local/lib' > and '/usr/local/ssl/lib' in > your system's runtime path(s), > e.g. via clre [or whatever it > is called on Solaris 8,9,10?]. > > * * * * * > > Hope this helps at least someone! > > And, YES, this *is* a BUG REPORT! ;-) > > And, Feed-back is very welcome too! :-) > > > Regards > > -- > ---- > ------ > -------- > > Rolf Sponsel > > ___________________________________________e_n_d___o_f___m_e_s_s_a_g_e_ > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? > > http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faq > -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001 + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073