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8.0 beta status

От
Tom Lane
Дата:
AFAIK there are no major patches still outstanding, with the exception
of the Windows-symlinks patch that arrived today from Andreas.  Bruce
and I both think that's worth getting in, if no one has any objections,
but otherwise we essentially have 8.0beta1 code.

The documentation, however, desperately needs work still; and Marc would
like to get some of the postgresql.org domains shifted over to the
newly-installed venus server before we go beta.  So the plan right now
is for a couple days' push on documentation, wrap beta1 on Sunday,
announce it Monday.

If anyone has time to work on docs over the next two days, please show
up on pgsql-docs and let us know what you want to work on.  (And of
course it's still open season for bug-fix patches.)
        regards, tom lane


Re: 8.0 beta status

От
David Fetter
Дата:
On Thu, Aug 05, 2004 at 07:58:14PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> AFAIK there are no major patches still outstanding, with the
> exception of the Windows-symlinks patch that arrived today from
> Andreas.  Bruce and I both think that's worth getting in, if no one
> has any objections, but otherwise we essentially have 8.0beta1 code.
> 
> The documentation, however, desperately needs work still; and Marc
> would like to get some of the postgresql.org domains shifted over to
> the newly-installed venus server before we go beta.

Which docs are in the most desparate need of help?

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D
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Re: 8.0 beta status

От
Gavin Sherry
Дата:
I've fixed dbsize here and will send it off once I get a second to test it
with multiple tablespaces.

I haven't looked at oid2name.

Bruce put together some ideas a few months back on what we want from
oid2name now (somewhere around here:
http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-patches/2004-06/msg00263.php). Were
there any other suggestions?

Gavin

On Thu, 5 Aug 2004, Tom Lane wrote:

> AFAIK there are no major patches still outstanding, with the exception
> of the Windows-symlinks patch that arrived today from Andreas.  Bruce
> and I both think that's worth getting in, if no one has any objections,
> but otherwise we essentially have 8.0beta1 code.
>
> The documentation, however, desperately needs work still; and Marc would
> like to get some of the postgresql.org domains shifted over to the
> newly-installed venus server before we go beta.  So the plan right now
> is for a couple days' push on documentation, wrap beta1 on Sunday,
> announce it Monday.
>
> If anyone has time to work on docs over the next two days, please show
> up on pgsql-docs and let us know what you want to work on.  (And of
> course it's still open season for bug-fix patches.)
>
>             regards, tom lane
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Re: 8.0 beta status

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Christopher Kings-Lynne
Дата:
> If anyone has time to work on docs over the next two days, please show
> up on pgsql-docs and let us know what you want to work on.  (And of
> course it's still open season for bug-fix patches.)

Tom, I haven't had a comment on the 'restoring LOB comments' patch, nor 
on the two tablespace failures that Gavin and I brought up (Or the 
original schema tablespace problem you found when you committed).  They 
could probably be post-beta perhaps though...

Chris



Re: 8.0 beta status

От
Tom Lane
Дата:
Christopher Kings-Lynne <chriskl@familyhealth.com.au> writes:
> Tom, I haven't had a comment on the 'restoring LOB comments' patch, nor 
> on the two tablespace failures that Gavin and I brought up (Or the 
> original schema tablespace problem you found when you committed).  They 
> could probably be post-beta perhaps though...

Yeah, those are all bug fixes and okay for post-beta I think.  But which
two tablespace failures are you thinking of exactly?  The last couple
weeks have been a bit of a blur for me...
        regards, tom lane


Re: 8.0 beta status

От
Christopher Kings-Lynne
Дата:

Re: 8.0 beta status

От
Tom Lane
Дата:
Christopher Kings-Lynne <chriskl@familyhealth.com.au> writes:
>> Yeah, those are all bug fixes and okay for post-beta I think.  But which
>> two tablespace failures are you thinking of exactly?  The last couple
>> weeks have been a bit of a blur for me...

>
http://groups.google.com.au/groups?q=tablespaces+group:comp.databases.postgresql.hackers&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&group=comp.databases.postgresql.hackers&scoring=d&selm=Pine.LNX.4.58.0407281411470.17889%40linuxworld.com.au&rnum=4

Okay, this is a the-error-message-could-be-better gripe.  Fair enough,
but it's not top of my priority list ...

>
http://groups.google.com.au/groups?q=tablespaces+group:comp.databases.postgresql.hackers&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&group=comp.databases.postgresql.hackers&scoring=d&selm=4107211C.2050508%40familyhealth.com.au&rnum=5

I think the problem here is that we don't have a syntax for saying
"my tablespace is the same as my database's default tablespace" or "my
tablespace is the same as my schema's default tablespace", when there is
an intermediate object (schema or table) that isn't using that
tablespace. (Note that "TABLESPACE pg_default" does definitely not mean
either of these.)

This is fixable with some special syntax but is it worth the trouble?
        regards, tom lane


Re: 8.0 beta status

От
Bruce Momjian
Дата:
Where are we on this?

---------------------------------------------------------------------------

Tom Lane wrote:
> Christopher Kings-Lynne <chriskl@familyhealth.com.au> writes:
> >> Yeah, those are all bug fixes and okay for post-beta I think.  But which
> >> two tablespace failures are you thinking of exactly?  The last couple
> >> weeks have been a bit of a blur for me...
> 
> >
http://groups.google.com.au/groups?q=tablespaces+group:comp.databases.postgresql.hackers&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&group=comp.databases.postgresql.hackers&scoring=d&selm=Pine.LNX.4.58.0407281411470.17889%40linuxworld.com.au&rnum=4
> 
> Okay, this is a the-error-message-could-be-better gripe.  Fair enough,
> but it's not top of my priority list ...
> 
> >
http://groups.google.com.au/groups?q=tablespaces+group:comp.databases.postgresql.hackers&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&group=comp.databases.postgresql.hackers&scoring=d&selm=4107211C.2050508%40familyhealth.com.au&rnum=5
> 
> I think the problem here is that we don't have a syntax for saying
> "my tablespace is the same as my database's default tablespace" or "my
> tablespace is the same as my schema's default tablespace", when there is
> an intermediate object (schema or table) that isn't using that
> tablespace. (Note that "TABLESPACE pg_default" does definitely not mean
> either of these.)
> 
> This is fixable with some special syntax but is it worth the trouble?
> 
>             regards, tom lane
> 
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Re: 8.0 beta status

От
Christopher Kings-Lynne
Дата:
The other tablespace problem is if you drop a tablespace that schema in 
another db uses, it's broken still I think.

Chris

Bruce Momjian wrote:

> Where are we on this?
> 
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Tom Lane wrote:
> 
>>Christopher Kings-Lynne <chriskl@familyhealth.com.au> writes:
>>
>>>>Yeah, those are all bug fixes and okay for post-beta I think.  But which
>>>>two tablespace failures are you thinking of exactly?  The last couple
>>>>weeks have been a bit of a blur for me...
>>

>>>http://groups.google.com.au/groups?q=tablespaces+group:comp.databases.postgresql.hackers&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&group=comp.databases.postgresql.hackers&scoring=d&selm=Pine.LNX.4.58.0407281411470.17889%40linuxworld.com.au&rnum=4
>>
>>Okay, this is a the-error-message-could-be-better gripe.  Fair enough,
>>but it's not top of my priority list ...
>>
>>

>>>http://groups.google.com.au/groups?q=tablespaces+group:comp.databases.postgresql.hackers&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&group=comp.databases.postgresql.hackers&scoring=d&selm=4107211C.2050508%40familyhealth.com.au&rnum=5
>>
>>I think the problem here is that we don't have a syntax for saying
>>"my tablespace is the same as my database's default tablespace" or "my
>>tablespace is the same as my schema's default tablespace", when there is
>>an intermediate object (schema or table) that isn't using that
>>tablespace. (Note that "TABLESPACE pg_default" does definitely not mean
>>either of these.)
>>
>>This is fixable with some special syntax but is it worth the trouble?
>>
>>            regards, tom lane
>>
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Re: 8.0 beta status

От
Gavin Sherry
Дата:
On Fri, 13 Aug 2004, Bruce Momjian wrote:

>
> Where are we on this?
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Tom Lane wrote:
> > Christopher Kings-Lynne <chriskl@familyhealth.com.au> writes:
> > >> Yeah, those are all bug fixes and okay for post-beta I think.  But which
> > >> two tablespace failures are you thinking of exactly?  The last couple
> > >> weeks have been a bit of a blur for me...
> >
> > >
http://groups.google.com.au/groups?q=tablespaces+group:comp.databases.postgresql.hackers&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&group=comp.databases.postgresql.hackers&scoring=d&selm=Pine.LNX.4.58.0407281411470.17889%40linuxworld.com.au&rnum=4
> >
> > Okay, this is a the-error-message-could-be-better gripe.  Fair enough,
> > but it's not top of my priority list ...

I submitted a patch for the above with the subject:

[PATCHES] CREATE DATABASE with tablespace fix

Gavin


Re: 8.0 beta status

От
Bruce Momjian
Дата:
Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote:
> > Yeah, those are all bug fixes and okay for post-beta I think.  But which
> > two tablespace failures are you thinking of exactly?  The last couple
> > weeks have been a bit of a blur for me...
> 
>
http://groups.google.com.au/groups?q=tablespaces+group:comp.databases.postgresql.hackers&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&group=comp.databases.postgresql.hackers&scoring=d&selm=Pine.LNX.4.58.0407281411470.17889%40linuxworld.com.au&rnum=4

I am confused.  You had:
template1=# create tablespace blah location '/home/swm/tbl/tspc1/';CREATE TABLESPACEtemplate1=# create table foo (i
int)tablespace blah;CREATE TABLEtemplate1=# create database foo tablespace blah;ERROR:  could not initialize database
directoryDETAIL: Directory "/home/swm/tbl/data/pg_tblspc/17227/17230" alreadyexists.
 

but with CVS head I see:
$ psql -a test </tmp/xcreate tablespace blah location '/bjm/tmp';CREATE TABLESPACEcreate table foo (i int) tablespace
blah;CREATETABLEcreate database foo tablespace blah;CREATE DATABASE
 

However, I don't see any CVS commit that fixed this?  What am I missing?

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Re: 8.0 beta status

От
Bruce Momjian
Дата:
Tom Lane wrote:
> >
http://groups.google.com.au/groups?q=tablespaces+group:comp.databases.postgresql.hackers&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&group=comp.databases.postgresql.hackers&scoring=d&selm=4107211C.2050508%40familyhealth.com.au&rnum=5
> 
> I think the problem here is that we don't have a syntax for saying
> "my tablespace is the same as my database's default tablespace" or "my
> tablespace is the same as my schema's default tablespace", when there is
> an intermediate object (schema or table) that isn't using that
> tablespace. (Note that "TABLESPACE pg_default" does definitely not mean
> either of these.)
> 
> This is fixable with some special syntax but is it worth the trouble?

Seems we have to come up with some solution or dump/reload will not put
things back in the same place for certain unusual configurations.

Added to open items:
* fix ambiguity for objects using default tablespaces

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Re: 8.0 beta status

От
Tom Lane
Дата:
Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us> writes:
> However, I don't see any CVS commit that fixed this?  What am I missing?

The failure case is where the template database has a conflicting
table.  You didn't show us where you created that table, but it
evidently was not in template1.
        regards, tom lane


Re: 8.0 beta status

От
Gavin Sherry
Дата:
On Sat, 14 Aug 2004, Bruce Momjian wrote:

> Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote:
> > > Yeah, those are all bug fixes and okay for post-beta I think.  But which
> > > two tablespace failures are you thinking of exactly?  The last couple
> > > weeks have been a bit of a blur for me...
> >
> >
http://groups.google.com.au/groups?q=tablespaces+group:comp.databases.postgresql.hackers&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&group=comp.databases.postgresql.hackers&scoring=d&selm=Pine.LNX.4.58.0407281411470.17889%40linuxworld.com.au&rnum=4
>
> I am confused.  You had:
>
>     template1=# create tablespace blah location '/home/swm/tbl/tspc1/';
>     CREATE TABLESPACE
>     template1=# create table foo (i int) tablespace blah;
>     CREATE TABLE
>     template1=# create database foo tablespace blah;
>     ERROR:  could not initialize database directory
>     DETAIL:  Directory "/home/swm/tbl/data/pg_tblspc/17227/17230" already
>     exists.
>
> but with CVS head I see:
>
>     $ psql -a test </tmp/x
>     create tablespace blah location '/bjm/tmp';
>     CREATE TABLESPACE
>     create table foo (i int) tablespace blah;
>     CREATE TABLE
>     create database foo tablespace blah;
>     CREATE DATABASE

You need to create a condition where by the new database would have to
merge a table into its default database. If you did the above in the
template1 database, you would get the same effect.

I sent a (partial) fix for this, which included some documentation
improvements. However, I posed a question. *digs*

[PATCHES] CREATE DATABASE with tablespace fix

was the subject.

Gavin


Re: 8.0 beta status

От
Bruce Momjian
Дата:
Tom Lane wrote:
> Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us> writes:
> > However, I don't see any CVS commit that fixed this?  What am I missing?
> 
> The failure case is where the template database has a conflicting
> table.  You didn't show us where you created that table, but it
> evidently was not in template1.

OK, reproduced by using template1:create tablespace blah location '/bjm/tmp';CREATE TABLESPACEcreate table foo (i int)
tablespaceblah;CREATE TABLEcreate database foo tablespace blah;ERROR:  could not initialize database directoryDETAIL:
Directory"/u/pgsql/data/pg_tblspc/17229/17232" already exists.
 

Gavin has posted a patch for this so I will put it in the patch queue.

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