Обсуждение: ECPG thread-safety
Philip, You can find the "patch so far" at: http://services.csl.co.uk/postgresql/ along with a libpq thread-safe patch. The thread referenced by Bruce's email details some of the issues still to be looked at. The main work is integration with the build system (testing for and linking in POSIX threads) and testing. I'm more than happy for you to look at at, I haven't had the time I hoped to complete this. Thanks, Lee. Philip Yarra writes:> As I found out recently, ECPG is not thread-safe. This is a problem for us, as > we really need tobe able to use ECPG* in a multi-threaded C application. > Michael mentioned that Lee is working on fixing these problems,but was not > sure when it would be complete. > > So, my questions are: > Lee/anyone, do you have an estimated completiondate? > If not, can we (myself plus a "real" C programmer) help you?> > Regards, Philip Yarra.> > * Yes, we coulduse libpq, but ECPG minimises our porting from Informix. > Rewriting everything to use libpq would be too expensive.>
I have the libpq patch in my mailbox that just needs configure thread testing code. I will get that in for 7.4. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lee Kindness wrote: > Philip, > > You can find the "patch so far" at: > > http://services.csl.co.uk/postgresql/ > > along with a libpq thread-safe patch. > > The thread referenced by Bruce's email details some of the issues > still to be looked at. The main work is integration with the build > system (testing for and linking in POSIX threads) and testing. > > I'm more than happy for you to look at at, I haven't had the time I > hoped to complete this. > > Thanks, Lee. > > Philip Yarra writes: > > As I found out recently, ECPG is not thread-safe. This is a problem for us, as > > we really need to be able to use ECPG* in a multi-threaded C application. > > Michael mentioned that Lee is working on fixing these problems, but was not > > sure when it would be complete. > > > > So, my questions are: > > Lee/anyone, do you have an estimated completion date? > > If not, can we (myself plus a "real" C programmer) help you? > > > > Regards, Philip Yarra. > > > > * Yes, we could use libpq, but ECPG minimises our porting from Informix. > > Rewriting everything to use libpq would be too expensive. > > > -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001+ If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania19073
--On Friday, March 28, 2003 10:54:23 -0500 Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us> wrote: > > I have the libpq patch in my mailbox that just needs configure thread > testing code. I will get that in for 7.4. I can help with the UnixWare threads stuff. Also, Micheal Meskes now has an account on my UnixWare box. The threads are native on UW, but you need to invoke the cc -Kpthread option. LER > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > Lee Kindness wrote: >> Philip, >> >> You can find the "patch so far" at: >> >> http://services.csl.co.uk/postgresql/ >> >> along with a libpq thread-safe patch. >> >> The thread referenced by Bruce's email details some of the issues >> still to be looked at. The main work is integration with the build >> system (testing for and linking in POSIX threads) and testing. >> >> I'm more than happy for you to look at at, I haven't had the time I >> hoped to complete this. >> >> Thanks, Lee. >> >> Philip Yarra writes: >> > As I found out recently, ECPG is not thread-safe. This is a problem >> > for us, as we really need to be able to use ECPG* in a >> > multi-threaded C application. Michael mentioned that Lee is working >> > on fixing these problems, but was not sure when it would be >> > complete. >> > >> > So, my questions are: >> > Lee/anyone, do you have an estimated completion date? >> > If not, can we (myself plus a "real" C programmer) help you? >> > >> > Regards, Philip Yarra. >> > >> > * Yes, we could use libpq, but ECPG minimises our porting from >> > Informix. Rewriting everything to use libpq would be too expensive. >> > >> > > -- > Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us > pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001 > + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road > + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania > 19073 > > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 6: Have you searched our list archives? > > http://archives.postgresql.org > -- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 972-414-9812 E-Mail: ler@lerctr.org US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749
Would someone take those patches and hunt around for proper 'configure' tests? I can do the configure coding, but I don't know what tests to make. http://services.csl.co.uk/postgresql/ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Larry Rosenman wrote: > > > --On Friday, March 28, 2003 10:54:23 -0500 Bruce Momjian > <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us> wrote: > > > > > I have the libpq patch in my mailbox that just needs configure thread > > testing code. I will get that in for 7.4. > I can help with the UnixWare threads stuff. Also, Micheal Meskes now has > an account > on my UnixWare box. > > The threads are native on UW, but you need to invoke the cc -Kpthread > option. > > LER > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > > > > Lee Kindness wrote: > >> Philip, > >> > >> You can find the "patch so far" at: > >> > >> http://services.csl.co.uk/postgresql/ > >> > >> along with a libpq thread-safe patch. > >> > >> The thread referenced by Bruce's email details some of the issues > >> still to be looked at. The main work is integration with the build > >> system (testing for and linking in POSIX threads) and testing. > >> > >> I'm more than happy for you to look at at, I haven't had the time I > >> hoped to complete this. > >> > >> Thanks, Lee. > >> > >> Philip Yarra writes: > >> > As I found out recently, ECPG is not thread-safe. This is a problem > >> > for us, as we really need to be able to use ECPG* in a > >> > multi-threaded C application. Michael mentioned that Lee is working > >> > on fixing these problems, but was not sure when it would be > >> > complete. > >> > > >> > So, my questions are: > >> > Lee/anyone, do you have an estimated completion date? > >> > If not, can we (myself plus a "real" C programmer) help you? > >> > > >> > Regards, Philip Yarra. > >> > > >> > * Yes, we could use libpq, but ECPG minimises our porting from > >> > Informix. Rewriting everything to use libpq would be too expensive. > >> > > >> > > > > -- > > Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us > > pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001 > > + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road > > + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania > > 19073 > > > > > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > > TIP 6: Have you searched our list archives? > > > > http://archives.postgresql.org > > > > > > -- > Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler > Phone: +1 972-414-9812 E-Mail: ler@lerctr.org > US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749 > > > > -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001+ If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania19073
--On Friday, March 28, 2003 11:00:47 -0500 Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us> wrote: > > Would someone take those patches and hunt around for proper 'configure' > tests? I can do the configure coding, but I don't know what tests to > make. > > http://services.csl.co.uk/postgresql/ I do know there are configure tests built for UnixWare's pthreads, but I don't know where. I have seen them invoked as I've compiled stuff. Also, once you compile a piece with -Kpthread you must compile ALL of it with -Kpthread. You are welcome to read the UnixWare docs at http://www.lerctr.org:8458/ or on the SCO site. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > Larry Rosenman wrote: >> >> >> --On Friday, March 28, 2003 10:54:23 -0500 Bruce Momjian >> <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us> wrote: >> >> > >> > I have the libpq patch in my mailbox that just needs configure thread >> > testing code. I will get that in for 7.4. >> I can help with the UnixWare threads stuff. Also, Micheal Meskes now >> has an account >> on my UnixWare box. >> >> The threads are native on UW, but you need to invoke the cc -Kpthread >> option. >> >> LER >> >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > --- -- >> > >> > Lee Kindness wrote: >> >> Philip, >> >> >> >> You can find the "patch so far" at: >> >> >> >> http://services.csl.co.uk/postgresql/ >> >> >> >> along with a libpq thread-safe patch. >> >> >> >> The thread referenced by Bruce's email details some of the issues >> >> still to be looked at. The main work is integration with the build >> >> system (testing for and linking in POSIX threads) and testing. >> >> >> >> I'm more than happy for you to look at at, I haven't had the time I >> >> hoped to complete this. >> >> >> >> Thanks, Lee. >> >> >> >> Philip Yarra writes: >> >> > As I found out recently, ECPG is not thread-safe. This is a problem >> >> > for us, as we really need to be able to use ECPG* in a >> >> > multi-threaded C application. Michael mentioned that Lee is >> >> > working on fixing these problems, but was not sure when it would >> >> > be complete. >> >> > >> >> > So, my questions are: >> >> > Lee/anyone, do you have an estimated completion date? >> >> > If not, can we (myself plus a "real" C programmer) help you? >> >> > >> >> > Regards, Philip Yarra. >> >> > >> >> > * Yes, we could use libpq, but ECPG minimises our porting from >> >> > Informix. Rewriting everything to use libpq would be too >> >> > expensive. >> >> > >> >> >> > >> > -- >> > Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us >> > pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001 >> > + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road >> > + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania >> > 19073 >> > >> > >> > ---------------------------(end of >> > broadcast)--------------------------- TIP 6: Have you searched our >> > list archives? >> > >> > http://archives.postgresql.org >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler >> Phone: +1 972-414-9812 E-Mail: ler@lerctr.org >> US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749 >> >> >> >> > > -- > Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us > pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001 > + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road > + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania > 19073 -- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 972-414-9812 E-Mail: ler@lerctr.org US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749
On Friday 28 March 2003 21:30, you wrote: > Would someone take those patches and hunt around for proper 'configure' > tests? I can do the configure coding, but I don't know what tests to > make. > > http://services.csl.co.uk/postgresql/ I also need configure tests for thread for one of my other application and don't know how to put them. So I have left those as additional ldflags options to users. I suggest we somehow test following config to start with 1) Linuxthreads on linux Threads are usually installed in /usr/ So pthread.h and -lpthread should work on most setups. 2) Native freeBSD threads pthread.h in /usr/include and lc_r 3)linuxthreads on freeBSD, ports collection /usr/local/include/pthreads/linuxthreads/pthread.h /usr/local/lib/libpthread.so For testing the library, I think it is enough to init an thread attr. like pthread_init_attr, that should be enough to test header and library. I don't how we are going to let people specify thread implementation where there are multiple thread libraries are available .e.g. freeBSD. HTH Shridhar
I must have spent at least a day looking at configure threads tests the past few months. Look at the tests in Python, OpenLDAP, MySQL, Apache 2.0, Perl, ... each and everyone of them is different! Ouch. Way above my experience in configure. One of the packages (sorry cannot find my notes on which one!) I looked at down the test on a per-OS level - supplying the tread compile and link flags used on that OS and CC to see if they worked... Probably the simplest way to go? L. Bruce Momjian writes:> > Would someone take those patches and hunt around for proper 'configure'> tests? I can do the configurecoding, but I don't know what tests to> make.> > http://services.csl.co.uk/postgresql/> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------->> Larry Rosenman wrote:> > > > > > --On Friday,March 28, 2003 10:54:23 -0500 Bruce Momjian > > <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us> wrote:> > > > >> > > I have the libpq patchin my mailbox that just needs configure thread> > > testing code. I will get that in for 7.4.> > I can help with theUnixWare threads stuff. Also, Micheal Meskes now has > > an account> > on my UnixWare box.> > > > The threads are nativeon UW, but you need to invoke the cc -Kpthread > > option.> > > > LER> > > > >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------->> > --> > >> > > Lee Kindness wrote:> > >> Philip,>> >>> > >> You can find the "patch so far" at:> > >>> > >> http://services.csl.co.uk/postgresql/> > >>> > >> alongwith a libpq thread-safe patch.> > >>> > >> The thread referenced by Bruce's email details some of the issues> > >>still to be looked at. The main work is integration with the build> > >> system (testing for and linking in POSIX threads)and testing.> > >>> > >> I'm more than happy for you to look at at, I haven't had the time I> > >> hoped to completethis.> > >>> > >> Thanks, Lee.> > >>> > >> Philip Yarra writes:> > >> > As I found out recently, ECPG is not thread-safe.This is a problem> > >> > for us, as we really need to be able to use ECPG* in a> > >> > multi-threaded Capplication. Michael mentioned that Lee is working> > >> > on fixing these problems, but was not sure when it would be>> >> > complete.> > >> >> > >> > So, my questions are:> > >> > Lee/anyone, do you have an estimated completion date?>> >> > If not, can we (myself plus a "real" C programmer) help you?> > >> >> > >> > Regards, Philip Yarra.> > >> >> > >> > * Yes, we could use libpq, but ECPG minimises our porting from> > >> > Informix. Rewriting everything touse libpq would be too expensive.> > >> >> > >>> > >> > > --> > > Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us>> > pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001> > > + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road> > > + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania> > > 19073> > >>> >> > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)---------------------------> > > TIP 6: Have you searched our listarchives?> > >> > > http://archives.postgresql.org> > >> > > > > > > > -- > > Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler>> Phone: +1 972-414-9812 E-Mail: ler@lerctr.org> > US Mail: 1905 Steamboat SpringsDrive, Garland, TX 75044-6749> > > > > > > > > > -- > Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us> pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001> + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road> + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073
On Friday 28 March 2003 21:45, you wrote: > For testing the library, I think it is enough to init an thread attr. like > pthread_init_attr, that should be enough to test header and library. And compiler flags, I forgot.. -pthread on freeBSD/gcc and -D_REENTRANT on linux at least. FreeBSD needs _THREAD_SAFE as well IIRC. Shridhar
Yep. I need someone who knows these OS's to get some tests together. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Shridhar Daithankar wrote: > On Friday 28 March 2003 21:45, you wrote: > > For testing the library, I think it is enough to init an thread attr. like > > pthread_init_attr, that should be enough to test header and library. > > And compiler flags, I forgot.. -pthread on freeBSD/gcc and -D_REENTRANT on > linux at least. FreeBSD needs _THREAD_SAFE as well IIRC. > > Shridhar > > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command > (send "unregister YourEmailAddressHere" to majordomo@postgresql.org) > -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001+ If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania19073
Shridhar Daithankar wrote: >2) Native freeBSD threads >pthread.h in /usr/include and lc_r > > > Do you know if FreeBSD supports pthread_rwlock with PTHREAD_PROCESS_SHARED? I'm trying to replace the LWLocks with pthread_rwlocks. What about other Unices? -- Manfred
On 1 Jun 2003 at 11:10, Manfred Spraul wrote: > Shridhar Daithankar wrote: > > >2) Native freeBSD threads > >pthread.h in /usr/include and lc_r > > > > > > > Do you know if FreeBSD supports pthread_rwlock with > PTHREAD_PROCESS_SHARED? I'm trying to replace the LWLocks with > pthread_rwlocks. > > What about other Unices? I am sorry for late reply. Hasn't been able to boot into freeBSD due to day job for weeks. I will check and let you know. ByeShridhar -- We'll pivot at warp 2 and bring all tubes to bear, Mr. Sulu!