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[HACKERS] Your Search Engine Listing (fwd)

От
ocie@paracel.com
Дата:
list@ListMe.com wrote:
> From owner-pgsql-hackers@hub.org Fri May  8 09:25:01 1998
> Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 11:18:42 -0400
> Message-Id: <199805081518.LAA22620@rover.listme.com>
> From: list@ListMe.com
> To: pgsql-hackers@postgreSQL.org
> Reply-To: list@ListMe.com
> Subject: [HACKERS] Your Search Engine Listing
> Sender: owner-pgsql-hackers@hub.org
> Precedence: bulk
>
> To: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org
>
>      Is your site listed with the top search engines?  ListMe will
>      list you with 50 search engines and indexes for $90.
>      Satisfaction guaranteed!
>
> Search engines are the only way most people have to find internet sites.
> But if your site is not listed, no one will find it.

BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH

It seems that no fileter will make us truly immune from SPAM, so for
better or worse, here is my proposed spam-hunter (tm) clause:

Purpose of the mailing list

The primary purpose of this mailing list is the discussion of ongoing
work to the Postgres database.  Discussions of other databases,
especially as they compare with Postgres are also 'on topic'.  Any
commercial postings including, but not limited to: Chain letters,
Pyramid schemes, "Make Money Fast", direct marketing schemes, web site
advertising, software advertising or any other type of advertising are
considered unsolicited email (SPAM).

These SPAM postings waste the time and resources of the volunteer
Postgres developers.  Therefore, in the interest of keeping the
Postgres mailing list free SPAM, the Postgres organization will charge
a fee of $50 per line for all such postings.  In addition to the $50
per line, fees may be charged for expenses related to collecting the
fee, including, but not limited to: postage, detective services and
collection services.



I voulenteer myself as an Internet PI.  I don't think it makes much
sense to pay someone up-front to track down a spammer.

So what does everyone think?

Ocie

Re: [HACKERS] Your Search Engine Listing (fwd)

От
The Hermit Hacker
Дата:
> It seems that no fileter will make us truly immune from SPAM, so for
> better or worse, here is my proposed spam-hunter (tm) clause:
>
> Purpose of the mailing list
>
> The primary purpose of this mailing list is the discussion of ongoing
> work to the Postgres database.  Discussions of other databases,
> especially as they compare with Postgres are also 'on topic'.  Any
> commercial postings including, but not limited to: Chain letters,
> Pyramid schemes, "Make Money Fast", direct marketing schemes, web site
> advertising, software advertising or any other type of advertising are
> considered unsolicited email (SPAM).
>
> These SPAM postings waste the time and resources of the volunteer
> Postgres developers.  Therefore, in the interest of keeping the
> Postgres mailing list free SPAM, the Postgres organization will charge
> a fee of $50 per line for all such postings.  In addition to the $50
> per line, fees may be charged for expenses related to collecting the
> fee, including, but not limited to: postage, detective services and
> collection services.
>
>
>
> I voulenteer myself as an Internet PI.  I don't think it makes much
> sense to pay someone up-front to track down a spammer.
>
> So what does everyone think?

    Sounds like a plan to me...be interesting to see what happens :)



RE: [HACKERS] Your Search Engine Listing (fwd)

От
"Jackson, DeJuan"
Дата:
I think that 50$ per line is a bit out there.  Maybe $0.10 per line *
number of people on the mailing list.  Then we are charging for a
measurable/growing number of people.
I also think that you should run it by a lawyer for proofing.
        -DEJ

> -----Original Message-----
> From:    ocie@paracel.com [SMTP:ocie@paracel.com]
> Sent:    Friday, May 08, 1998 4:25 PM
> To:    pgsql-hackers@hub.org
> Subject:    [HACKERS] Your Search Engine Listing (fwd)
>
> list@ListMe.com wrote:
> > From owner-pgsql-hackers@hub.org Fri May  8 09:25:01 1998
> > Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 11:18:42 -0400
> > Message-Id: <199805081518.LAA22620@rover.listme.com>
> > From: list@ListMe.com
> > To: pgsql-hackers@postgreSQL.org
> > Reply-To: list@ListMe.com
> > Subject: [HACKERS] Your Search Engine Listing
> > Sender: owner-pgsql-hackers@hub.org
> > Precedence: bulk
> >
> > To: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org
> >
> >      Is your site listed with the top search engines?  ListMe will
> >      list you with 50 search engines and indexes for $90.
> >      Satisfaction guaranteed!
> >
> > Search engines are the only way most people have to find internet
> sites.
> > But if your site is not listed, no one will find it.
>
> BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH
>
> It seems that no fileter will make us truly immune from SPAM, so for
> better or worse, here is my proposed spam-hunter (tm) clause:
>
> Purpose of the mailing list
>
> The primary purpose of this mailing list is the discussion of ongoing
> work to the Postgres database.  Discussions of other databases,
> especially as they compare with Postgres are also 'on topic'.  Any
> commercial postings including, but not limited to: Chain letters,
> Pyramid schemes, "Make Money Fast", direct marketing schemes, web site
> advertising, software advertising or any other type of advertising are
> considered unsolicited email (SPAM).
>
> These SPAM postings waste the time and resources of the volunteer
> Postgres developers.  Therefore, in the interest of keeping the
> Postgres mailing list free SPAM, the Postgres organization will charge
> a fee of $50 per line for all such postings.  In addition to the $50
> per line, fees may be charged for expenses related to collecting the
> fee, including, but not limited to: postage, detective services and
> collection services.
>
>
>
> I voulenteer myself as an Internet PI.  I don't think it makes much
> sense to pay someone up-front to track down a spammer.
>
> So what does everyone think?
>
> Ocie

Re: [HACKERS] Your Search Engine Listing (fwd)

От
ocie@paracel.com
Дата:
Jackson, DeJuan wrote:
>
> I think that 50$ per line is a bit out there.  Maybe $0.10 per line *
> number of people on the mailing list.  Then we are charging for a
> measurable/growing number of people.
> I also think that you should run it by a lawyer for proofing.
>         -DEJ

That sounds like a good idea.  As for the cost -- why don't we set it
so that it comes out to $50 per line.  What is $50 / number of
subsribers?

Ocie

Re: [HACKERS] Your Search Engine Listing (fwd)

От
The Hermit Hacker
Дата:
On Fri, 8 May 1998 ocie@paracel.com wrote:

> Jackson, DeJuan wrote:
> >
> > I think that 50$ per line is a bit out there.  Maybe $0.10 per line *
> > number of people on the mailing list.  Then we are charging for a
> > measurable/growing number of people.
> > I also think that you should run it by a lawyer for proofing.
> >         -DEJ
>
> That sounds like a good idea.  As for the cost -- why don't we set it
> so that it comes out to $50 per line.  What is $50 / number of
> subsribers?

    pgsql-questions == ~1000 subscribers +/-