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"Immediate shutdown if postmaster.pid is removed" not mentioned in Release Notes

От
Victor Yegorov
Дата:
I noticed, that 9.5 release notes (beta2) do not mention commit 7e2a18a9161fee7e67642863f72b51d77d3e996.


I think this one should be added.


--
Victor Y. Yegorov

Re: "Immediate shutdown if postmaster.pid is removed" not mentioned in Release Notes

От
Tatsuo Ishii
Дата:
> I noticed, that 9.5 release notes (beta2) do not mention
> commit 7e2a18a9161fee7e67642863f72b51d77d3e996.
>
>
> I think this one should be added.

+1.

Best regards,
--
Tatsuo Ishii
SRA OSS, Inc. Japan
English: http://www.sraoss.co.jp/index_en.php
Japanese:http://www.sraoss.co.jp


Re: "Immediate shutdown if postmaster.pid is removed" not mentioned in Release Notes

От
Tom Lane
Дата:
Victor Yegorov <vyegorov@gmail.com> writes:
> I noticed, that 9.5 release notes (beta2) do not mention
> commit 7e2a18a9161fee7e67642863f72b51d77d3e996.

We don't normally document back-patched patches in as-yet-unreleased
branches, since the point of release notes is to tell you what's new
compared to the previous release, and this item isn't (or won't be).

Also, I doubt that this is of any great concern to the average user.
It's not a scenario that would come up in anything I would call a
supported use-case.  If we're to reverse the aforementioned policy,
there are probably quite a few patches that would now need to be
documented as "new in 9.5" and are more significant than this.

            regards, tom lane


Re: "Immediate shutdown if postmaster.pid is removed" not mentioned in Release Notes

От
"David G. Johnston"
Дата:
On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
Victor Yegorov <vyegorov@gmail.com> writes:
> I noticed, that 9.5 release notes (beta2) do not mention
> commit 7e2a18a9161fee7e67642863f72b51d77d3e996.

We don't normally document back-patched patches in as-yet-unreleased
branches, since the point of release notes is to tell you what's new
compared to the previous release, and this item isn't (or won't be).

Also, I doubt that this is of any great concern to the average user.
It's not a scenario that would come up in anything I would call a
supported use-case.  If we're to reverse the aforementioned policy,
there are probably quite a few patches that would now need to be
documented as "new in 9.5" and are more significant than this.

​IOW, if you are familiar with how a previous version works you should keep up with its release notes to catch a bug-fix behavior change like this.  Those who will end up learning on the upcoming release will simply learn that this is how things work.

David J.
 

Re: "Immediate shutdown if postmaster.pid is removed" not mentioned in Release Notes

От
Tatsuo Ishii
Дата:
> We don't normally document back-patched patches in as-yet-unreleased
> branches, since the point of release notes is to tell you what's new
> compared to the previous release, and this item isn't (or won't be).

That makes sense.

> Also, I doubt that this is of any great concern to the average user.
> It's not a scenario that would come up in anything I would call a
> supported use-case.  If we're to reverse the aforementioned policy,
> there are probably quite a few patches that would now need to be
> documented as "new in 9.5" and are more significant than this.

It's possible that novice admins accidentally remove postmaster.pid (I
saw this kind of incidents a few times while supporting customers if
my memory serves). Anyway I am happy as long as it's clearly
documented in the release notes of the next versions.

Best regards,
--
Tatsuo Ishii
SRA OSS, Inc. Japan
English: http://www.sraoss.co.jp/index_en.php
Japanese:http://www.sraoss.co.jp