Обсуждение: pg_class.reltuples VS pg_stat_all_tables.n_live_tup for estimation of table

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pg_class.reltuples VS pg_stat_all_tables.n_live_tup for estimation of table

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William Dunn
Дата:
Hello,

Does anyone which is a more accurate estimate of a table's live rows: pg_class.reltuples (http://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/static/catalog-pg-class.html) OR pg_stat_all_tables.n_live_tup (http://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/static/monitoring-stats.html#PG-STAT-ALL-TABLES-VIEW)? In my test database their values are not the same.
  • Is pg_class.reltuples an estimation of live tuples only, or is it of all tuples (both live and dead)? I would guess it's live only but that is a guess
  • In the database I am testing:
    • pg_class.reltuples <> pg_stat_all_tables.n_live_tup
    • pg_class.reltuples <> (pg_stat_all_tables.n_live_tup + pg_stat_all_tables.n_dead_tup)

I understand that pg_stat_all_tables is probably the more expensive view to query but I am already querying both so I only care which is more accurate.


Thanks!
Will

Will J. Dunn

Re: pg_class.reltuples VS pg_stat_all_tables.n_live_tup for estimation of table

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Tom Lane
Дата:
William Dunn <dunnwjr@gmail.com> writes:
> Does anyone which is a more accurate estimate of a table's live
> rows: pg_class.reltuples (
> http://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/static/catalog-pg-class.html)
> OR pg_stat_all_tables.n_live_tup (
> http://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/static/monitoring-stats.html#PG-STAT-ALL-TABLES-VIEW)?

They're both inaccurate with different sources of inaccuracy.  I dunno
that you should assume that one is necessarily better than the other.

>    - Is pg_class.reltuples an estimation of live tuples only, or is it of
>    all tuples (both live and dead)? I would guess it's live only but that is a
>    guess

Hm.  I'm pretty sure the planner takes it as counting live tuples only,
but it looks like VACUUM thinks it includes recently-dead-but-not-yet-
removable tuples.  We might need to do some adjustment there.

            regards, tom lane


Re: pg_class.reltuples VS pg_stat_all_tables.n_live_tup for estimation of table

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William Dunn
Дата:
Thanks so much Tom!

Will J. Dunn

On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 3:48 PM, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
William Dunn <dunnwjr@gmail.com> writes:
> Does anyone which is a more accurate estimate of a table's live
> rows: pg_class.reltuples (
> http://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/static/catalog-pg-class.html)
> OR pg_stat_all_tables.n_live_tup (
> http://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/static/monitoring-stats.html#PG-STAT-ALL-TABLES-VIEW)?

They're both inaccurate with different sources of inaccuracy.  I dunno
that you should assume that one is necessarily better than the other.

>    - Is pg_class.reltuples an estimation of live tuples only, or is it of
>    all tuples (both live and dead)? I would guess it's live only but that is a
>    guess

Hm.  I'm pretty sure the planner takes it as counting live tuples only,
but it looks like VACUUM thinks it includes recently-dead-but-not-yet-
removable tuples.  We might need to do some adjustment there.

                        regards, tom lane