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Per-query local timezone

От
Mark Morgan Lloyd
Дата:
Is it possible to incorporate SET TIMEZONE into a query, so that
to_char(...'TZ') etc. is appropriately localised?

The development environment I'm working with uses short-lifetime
sessions, and it's proving difficult to get a set command and a query
associated with the same handle.

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Mark Morgan Lloyd
markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk

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Re: Per-query local timezone

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Karsten Hilbert
Дата:
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 09:40:20AM +0000, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:

> Is it possible to incorporate SET TIMEZONE into a query, so that
> to_char(...'TZ') etc. is appropriately localised?

You seem to want "AT TIME ZONE".

Karsten
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Re: Per-query local timezone

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John R Pierce
Дата:
On 06/14/11 2:40 AM, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
>
> The development environment I'm working with uses short-lifetime
> sessions, and it's proving difficult to get a set command and a query
> associated with the same handle.

this environment doesn't support even a transaction?



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Re: Per-query local timezone

От
Mark Morgan Lloyd
Дата:
Karsten Hilbert wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 09:40:20AM +0000, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
>
>> Is it possible to incorporate SET TIMEZONE into a query, so that
>> to_char(...'TZ') etc. is appropriately localised?
>
> You seem to want "AT TIME ZONE".

Thanks for that. How can I do /this/

select to_char(now() at time zone 'GMT0BST', 'TZ');

It appears to return '', while if I used a separate SET TIMEZONE I'd
expect 'BST'.

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Mark Morgan Lloyd
markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk

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Re: Per-query local timezone

От
Tom Lane
Дата:
John R Pierce <pierce@hogranch.com> writes:
> On 06/14/11 2:40 AM, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
>> The development environment I'm working with uses short-lifetime
>> sessions, and it's proving difficult to get a set command and a query
>> associated with the same handle.

> this environment doesn't support even a transaction?

Sounds kinda broken :-( ... but maybe Mark could wrap the operations
he needs into custom functions.

            regards, tom lane

Re: Per-query local timezone

От
Steve Crawford
Дата:
On 06/14/2011 05:13 AM, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
> Karsten Hilbert wrote:
>> On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 09:40:20AM +0000, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
>>
>>> Is it possible to incorporate SET TIMEZONE into a query, so that
>>> to_char(...'TZ') etc. is appropriately localised?
>>
>> You seem to want "AT TIME ZONE".
>
> Thanks for that. How can I do /this/
>
> select to_char(now() at time zone 'GMT0BST', 'TZ');
>
> It appears to return '', while if I used a separate SET TIMEZONE I'd
> expect 'BST'.
>

The "now()" function returns a timestamp with time zone (aka a point in
time). When you ask for a timestamp with time zone at a specific time
zone, you get a timestamp *without* time zone (you provided and
therefore know the desired time zone and PostgreSQL returned the
timestamp in that zone).

I'm a bit concerned with your initial statement that "The development
environment I'm working with uses short-lifetime sessions, and it's
proving difficult to get a set command and a query associated with the
same handle.". Do I take this to mean that connections are going through
some sort of pooler that is allocating connections on as short as a
per-statement basis so you might end up with a different connection
between the "set time zone.." statement and the query? If so, you may
start to find all sorts of other issues.

It's a bit convoluted, but you could get the zone from a subquery and
select the timestamp converted to that zone along with the zone itself
from the outer query:

select now() at time zone foo.tz, foo.tz from (select 'est5edt'::text as
tz) as foo;

Cheers,
Steve


Re: Per-query local timezone

От
Mark Morgan Lloyd
Дата:
Tom Lane wrote:
> John R Pierce <pierce@hogranch.com> writes:
>> On 06/14/11 2:40 AM, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
>>> The development environment I'm working with uses short-lifetime
>>> sessions, and it's proving difficult to get a set command and a query
>>> associated with the same handle.
>
>> this environment doesn't support even a transaction?
>
> Sounds kinda broken :-( ... but maybe Mark could wrap the operations
> he needs into custom functions.

Is always a possibility. The problem is that particular component I'm
using conflates the open and issue-query operations and has an implicit
transaction, the developers are aware that this has undesirable
implications.

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Mark Morgan Lloyd
markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk

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Re: Per-query local timezone

От
Mark Morgan Lloyd
Дата:
Steve Crawford wrote:
> On 06/14/2011 05:13 AM, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
>> Karsten Hilbert wrote:
>>> On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 09:40:20AM +0000, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is it possible to incorporate SET TIMEZONE into a query, so that
>>>> to_char(...'TZ') etc. is appropriately localised?
>>>
>>> You seem to want "AT TIME ZONE".
>>
>> Thanks for that. How can I do /this/
>>
>> select to_char(now() at time zone 'GMT0BST', 'TZ');
>>
>> It appears to return '', while if I used a separate SET TIMEZONE I'd
>> expect 'BST'.
>>
>
> The "now()" function returns a timestamp with time zone (aka a point in
> time). When you ask for a timestamp with time zone at a specific time
> zone, you get a timestamp *without* time zone (you provided and
> therefore know the desired time zone and PostgreSQL returned the
> timestamp in that zone).
>
> I'm a bit concerned with your initial statement that "The development
> environment I'm working with uses short-lifetime sessions, and it's
> proving difficult to get a set command and a query associated with the
> same handle.". Do I take this to mean that connections are going through
> some sort of pooler that is allocating connections on as short as a
> per-statement basis so you might end up with a different connection
> between the "set time zone.." statement and the query? If so, you may
> start to find all sorts of other issues.
>
> It's a bit convoluted, but you could get the zone from a subquery and
> select the timestamp converted to that zone along with the zone itself
> from the outer query:
>
> select now() at time zone foo.tz, foo.tz from (select 'est5edt'::text as
> tz) as foo;

Looking back through the mailing list, the issue appears to be the way
that AT TIME ZONE is parsed into a function which returns a string. I
think the easiest way round most of this is going to be to use the PGTZ
shell variable, otherwise I think I can pull the info I need out of
pg_timezone_names subject to using the correct zone name.

--
Mark Morgan Lloyd
markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk

[Opinions above are the author's, not those of his employers or colleagues]