Обсуждение: Are these two creation commands functionally identical?

I want to to know if these two are functionally equivalent.  Is this:

Create table "users"
(
    "userid" BigSerial NOT NULL,
    "name" Varchar(20),
 primary key ("userid")
) Without Oids;
Create table "sales"
(
    "saleid" BigSerial NOT NULL,
    "userid" Bigint NOT NULL,
    "parent_saleid" Bigint NOT NULL,
 primary key ("saleid")
) Without Oids;
Alter table "sales" add  foreign key ("userid") references
"users" ("userid") on update restrict on delete restrict;
Alter table "sales" add  foreign key ("parent_saleid") references
"sales" ("saleid") on update restrict on delete restrict;

Is the above functionally identical to:

Create table "users"
(
    "userid" BigSerial NOT NULL,
    "name" Varchar(20),
 primary key ("userid")
) Without Oids;
Create table "sales"
(
    "saleid" BigSerial NOT NULL,
    "userid" bigint references users(userid),
    "parent_saleid" bigint references sales(saleid),
 primary key ("saleid")
) Without Oids;

Using postgreSQL 8.1 if it matters, thanks.

On fim, 2007-08-09 at 20:55 +0000, dterrors@hotmail.com wrote:
> I want to to know if these two are functionally equivalent.  Is this:
>
> Create table "sales"
> (
>     "saleid" BigSerial NOT NULL,
>     "userid" Bigint NOT NULL,
>     "parent_saleid" Bigint NOT NULL,
>  primary key ("saleid")
> ) Without Oids;
> Alter table "sales" add  foreign key ("userid") references
> "users" ("userid") on update restrict on delete restrict;
> Alter table "sales" add  foreign key ("parent_saleid") references
> "sales" ("saleid") on update restrict on delete restrict;
this constraint seems a bit strange to me. are you going
to special-case the first insert into this table?


> Is the above functionally identical to:
>
> Create table "sales"
> (
>     "saleid" BigSerial NOT NULL,
>     "userid" bigint references users(userid),
>     "parent_saleid" bigint references sales(saleid),
>  primary key ("saleid")
> ) Without Oids;

no these 2 are not fuctionally identical, because the second one
does not have a NOT NULL constraint on the foreign keys,
allowing you to insert:
INSERT INTO sales (saleid,userid,parent_saleid)
    VALUES (100,null,100);


gnari

On Aug 11, 5:21 am, gn...@hive.is (Ragnar) wrote:
> no these 2 are not fuctionally identical, because the second one
> does not have a NOT NULL constraint on the foreign keys,
> allowing you to insert:
> INSERT INTO sales (saleid,userid,parent_saleid)
>     VALUES (100,null,100);
>

OK thank you.  Besides the not null, are they otherwise identical?
The first statement is from a graphical db model tool I want to use,
the second is from my own handwritten sql. I want to see if it's
essentially the same.  thanks.