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Description of SIGHUP GUC parameters

От
Tom Lane
Дата:
Currently, the standard boilerplate description of a SIGHUP parameter
is

        This option can only be set at server start or in the
        <filename>postgresql.conf</filename> file.

We've heard from more than one person who found this confusing ---
frequently it's misread as saying that the parameter cannot be changed
after postmaster start.  Doubtless this is partly because the
boilerplate phrase for a POSTMASTER parameter is

        This option can only be set at server start.

However, previous discussions have dried up without coming up with a
better phrase.  It occurred to me today that this might work better:

        This option can only be set in the <filename>postgresql.conf</>
        file or on the server command line.

I think mentioning the config file first is important to focus attention
on that.  The only other way to set these parameters is via command-line
switches, so we should just say that rather than emphasizing the "server
start time" aspect of it, which is exactly what not to emphasize.

Comments?

            regards, tom lane

Re: Description of SIGHUP GUC parameters

От
Simon Riggs
Дата:
On Sat, 2006-01-21 at 14:46 -0500, Tom Lane wrote:
> Currently, the standard boilerplate description of a SIGHUP parameter
> is
>
>         This option can only be set at server start or in the
>         <filename>postgresql.conf</filename> file.
>
> We've heard from more than one person who found this confusing ---
> frequently it's misread as saying that the parameter cannot be changed
> after postmaster start.  Doubtless this is partly because the
> boilerplate phrase for a POSTMASTER parameter is
>
>         This option can only be set at server start.
>
> However, previous discussions have dried up without coming up with a
> better phrase.  It occurred to me today that this might work better:
>
>         This option can only be set in the <filename>postgresql.conf</>
>         file or on the server command line.
>
> I think mentioning the config file first is important to focus attention
> on that.  The only other way to set these parameters is via command-line
> switches, so we should just say that rather than emphasizing the "server
> start time" aspect of it, which is exactly what not to emphasize.

Just seen this again today and agree its confusing.

<wildassertion>I think most people think that all parameters can only be
set at server start, until they have dug deeper. Most other systems
software requires a restart to pick up new parameters</wildassertion>

Why not simply use the technical phrase: "SIGHUP" etc. We can just say
'these terms are shorthand for "......" '

I'm not crazy about the terms but at least it is explicit and accurate.
It would also allow us to have a much longer description of all of the
implications and difficulties of each mode.

Best Regards, Simon Riggs


Re: Description of SIGHUP GUC parameters

От
Tom Lane
Дата:
Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com> writes:
> Why not simply use the technical phrase: "SIGHUP" etc. We can just say
> 'these terms are shorthand for "......" '

> I'm not crazy about the terms but at least it is explicit and accurate.
> It would also allow us to have a much longer description of all of the
> implications and difficulties of each mode.

We have all that in the introductory section; the references made in the
per-variable descriptions really have no impact on how verbose the
introductory text is ...

            regards, tom lane