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Huge speed penalty using <>TRUE instead of =FALSE

От
Jan-Ivar Mellingen
Дата:
One of our customers discovered that by replacing <>TRUE with =FALSE in
a query of a table containing 750.000 records reduced the query time
from about 12 seconds to about 60 milliseconds!

The problematic query looks like this:
SELECT * FROM AlarmLogg WHERE Logg_avsluttet <> TRUE AND
Alarm_status='X' ORDER BY ID DESC

If it is changed to this it works as expected:
SELECT * FROM AlarmLogg WHERE Logg_avsluttet = FALSE AND
Alarm_status='X' ORDER BY ID DESC

After investigation (on a smaller dataset on my own database) I found
that the query was resulting in a sequential scan:

"explain analyze SELECT * FROM AlarmLogg WHERE Logg_avsluttet <> TRUE
AND Alarm_status='X' ORDER BY ID DESC"
"Sort  (cost=49936.96..49936.96 rows=1 width=405) (actual
time=837.793..837.793 rows=0 loops=1)"
"  Sort Key: id"
"  Sort Method:  quicksort  Memory: 17kB"
"  ->  Seq Scan on alarmlogg  (cost=0.00..49936.95 rows=1 width=405)
(actual time=837.782..837.782 rows=0 loops=1)"
"        Filter: ((logg_avsluttet <> true) AND ((alarm_status)::text =
'X'::text))"
"Total runtime: 837.896 ms"

The modified query gave this result:
"explain analyze SELECT * FROM AlarmLogg WHERE Logg_avsluttet = FALSE
AND Alarm_status='X' ORDER BY ID DESC"
"Sort  (cost=8.36..8.37 rows=1 width=405) (actual time=0.032..0.032
rows=0 loops=1)"
"  Sort Key: id"
"  Sort Method:  quicksort  Memory: 17kB"
"  ->  Index Scan using i_alarmlogg_logg_avsluttet on alarmlogg
(cost=0.00..8.35 rows=1 width=405) (actual time=0.024..0.024 rows=0
loops=1)"
"        Index Cond: (logg_avsluttet = false)"
"        Filter: ((NOT logg_avsluttet) AND ((alarm_status)::text =
'X'::text))"
"Total runtime: 0.123 ms"

This is a dramatical difference, but I cannot understand why. In my head
"<>TRUE" should behave exactly the same as "=FALSE". This looks like a
bug to me, or am I overlooking something?

This was verified on PostgreSQL 8.3.7, both on Windows Xp and Ubuntu 8.10.

Some relevant details from the table definition:
CREATE TABLE alarmlogg
(
   id serial NOT NULL,
   alarm_status character varying(1) DEFAULT ''::character varying,
   logg_avsluttet boolean DEFAULT false,
   ...
   CONSTRAINT alarmlogg_pkey PRIMARY KEY (id)
)

CREATE INDEX i_alarmlogg_alarm_status
  ON alarmlogg
  USING btree
  (alarm_status);

CREATE INDEX i_alarmlogg_logg_avsluttet
  ON alarmlogg
  USING btree
  (logg_avsluttet);

Regards,
Jan-Ivar Mellingen
Securinet AS

Re: Huge speed penalty using <>TRUE instead of =FALSE

От
Peter Eisentraut
Дата:
On Friday 17 July 2009 11:12:41 Jan-Ivar Mellingen wrote:
> One of our customers discovered that by replacing <>TRUE with =FALSE in
> a query of a table containing 750.000 records reduced the query time
> from about 12 seconds to about 60 milliseconds!

> This is a dramatical difference, but I cannot understand why. In my head
> "<>TRUE" should behave exactly the same as "=FALSE". This looks like a
> bug to me, or am I overlooking something?

The planner just isn't that smart.  The boolean type is a special case where
<> some_value implies = some_other_value, but this doesn't generalize well to
other data types.  And the planner doesn't have a whole lot of data type
specific knowledge.

I think a better index definition might actually be on alarm_status, with a
partial index predicate on logg_avsluttet = false.

Re: Huge speed penalty using <>TRUE instead of =FALSE

От
Mikael Krantz
Дата:
It might be that your column may be NULL as well as TRUE or FALSE. I
am no expert in this matter though.

/M

On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Jan-Ivar
Mellingen<jan-ivar.mellingen@alreg.no> wrote:
> One of our customers discovered that by replacing <>TRUE with =3DFALSE in
> a query of a table containing 750.000 records reduced the query time
> from about 12 seconds to about 60 milliseconds!
>
> The problematic query looks like this:
> SELECT * FROM AlarmLogg WHERE Logg_avsluttet <> TRUE AND
> Alarm_status=3D'X' ORDER BY ID DESC
>
> If it is changed to this it works as expected:
> SELECT * FROM AlarmLogg WHERE Logg_avsluttet =3D FALSE AND
> Alarm_status=3D'X' ORDER BY ID DESC
>
> After investigation (on a smaller dataset on my own database) I found
> that the query was resulting in a sequential scan:
>
> "explain analyze SELECT * FROM AlarmLogg WHERE Logg_avsluttet <> TRUE
> AND Alarm_status=3D'X' ORDER BY ID DESC"
> "Sort =A0(cost=3D49936.96..49936.96 rows=3D1 width=3D405) (actual
> time=3D837.793..837.793 rows=3D0 loops=3D1)"
> " =A0Sort Key: id"
> " =A0Sort Method: =A0quicksort =A0Memory: 17kB"
> " =A0-> =A0Seq Scan on alarmlogg =A0(cost=3D0.00..49936.95 rows=3D1 width=
=3D405)
> (actual time=3D837.782..837.782 rows=3D0 loops=3D1)"
> " =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Filter: ((logg_avsluttet <> true) AND ((alarm_status)::t=
ext =3D
> 'X'::text))"
> "Total runtime: 837.896 ms"
>
> The modified query gave this result:
> "explain analyze SELECT * FROM AlarmLogg WHERE Logg_avsluttet =3D FALSE
> AND Alarm_status=3D'X' ORDER BY ID DESC"
> "Sort =A0(cost=3D8.36..8.37 rows=3D1 width=3D405) (actual time=3D0.032..0=
.032
> rows=3D0 loops=3D1)"
> " =A0Sort Key: id"
> " =A0Sort Method: =A0quicksort =A0Memory: 17kB"
> " =A0-> =A0Index Scan using i_alarmlogg_logg_avsluttet on alarmlogg
> (cost=3D0.00..8.35 rows=3D1 width=3D405) (actual time=3D0.024..0.024 rows=
=3D0
> loops=3D1)"
> " =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Index Cond: (logg_avsluttet =3D false)"
> " =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Filter: ((NOT logg_avsluttet) AND ((alarm_status)::text =
=3D
> 'X'::text))"
> "Total runtime: 0.123 ms"
>
> This is a dramatical difference, but I cannot understand why. In my head
> "<>TRUE" should behave exactly the same as "=3DFALSE". This looks like a
> bug to me, or am I overlooking something?
>
> This was verified on PostgreSQL 8.3.7, both on Windows Xp and Ubuntu 8.10.
>
> Some relevant details from the table definition:
> CREATE TABLE alarmlogg
> (
> =A0 id serial NOT NULL,
> =A0 alarm_status character varying(1) DEFAULT ''::character varying,
> =A0 logg_avsluttet boolean DEFAULT false,
> =A0 ...
> =A0 CONSTRAINT alarmlogg_pkey PRIMARY KEY (id)
> )
>
> CREATE INDEX i_alarmlogg_alarm_status
> =A0ON alarmlogg
> =A0USING btree
> =A0(alarm_status);
>
> CREATE INDEX i_alarmlogg_logg_avsluttet
> =A0ON alarmlogg
> =A0USING btree
> =A0(logg_avsluttet);
>
> Regards,
> Jan-Ivar Mellingen
> Securinet AS
>
>
> --
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Re: Huge speed penalty using <>TRUE instead of =FALSE

От
Peter Eisentraut
Дата:
On Friday 17 July 2009 12:45:47 Mikael Krantz wrote:
> It might be that your column may be NULL as well as TRUE or FALSE. I
> am no expert in this matter though.

Nulls also need to be considered when attempting to substitute purportedly
equivalent clauses.  But in this case it wouldn't actually matter, because

WHERE foo <> TRUE

and

WHERE foo = false

would both omit the row if foo is null.  Both expressions only return true if
foo has the value "false".  But again, this is data type specific knowledge.

Re: Huge speed penalty using <>TRUE instead of =FALSE

От
Tom Lane
Дата:
Jan-Ivar Mellingen <jan-ivar.mellingen@alreg.no> writes:
> One of our customers discovered that by replacing <>TRUE with =FALSE in
> a query of a table containing 750.000 records reduced the query time
> from about 12 seconds to about 60 milliseconds!

This is not a bug.  The set of operators that are indexable is well
documented, and <> is not one of them.

            regards, tom lane

Re: Huge speed penalty using <>TRUE instead of =FALSE

От
Tom Lane
Дата:
Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net> writes:
> ... But again, this is data type specific knowledge.

Actually, now that I think about it, the planner already has
datatype-specific knowledge about boolean equality (see
simplify_boolean_equality).  It would take just a few more lines of code
there to recognize "x <> true" and "x <> false" as additional variant
spellings of the generic "x" or "NOT x" constructs.  Not sure if it's
worth the trouble though; how many people really write such things?

If you really wanted to take it to extremes, you could also reduce
cases like "x > false", but that's starting to get a bit silly.

            regards, tom lane

Re: Huge speed penalty using <>TRUE instead of =FALSE

От
Greg Stark
Дата:
I don't think it even has to be so specific. We should just always
rewrite bool <> bool into bool = NOT bool.


Hmm. That only has a 50/50 chance of  creating an indexable clause.
Perhaps we could even rewrite it as "a = NOT b AND NOT a = b".

--
Greg

On 2009-07-17, at 3:21 PM, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:

> Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net> writes:
>> ... But again, this is data type specific knowledge.
>
> Actually, now that I think about it, the planner already has
> datatype-specific knowledge about boolean equality (see
> simplify_boolean_equality).  It would take just a few more lines of
> code
> there to recognize "x <> true" and "x <> false" as additional variant
> spellings of the generic "x" or "NOT x" constructs.  Not sure if it's
> worth the trouble though; how many people really write such things?
>
> If you really wanted to take it to extremes, you could also reduce
> cases like "x > false", but that's starting to get a bit silly.
>
>            regards, tom lane
>
> --
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Re: Huge speed penalty using <>TRUE instead of =FALSE

От
Jan-Ivar Mellingen
Дата:
Jan-Ivar Mellingen skrev:
> One of our customers discovered that by replacing <>TRUE with =FALSE in
> a query of a table containing 750.000 records reduced the query time
> from about 12 seconds to about 60 milliseconds!
>
> The problematic query looks like this:
> SELECT * FROM AlarmLogg WHERE Logg_avsluttet <> TRUE AND
> Alarm_status='X' ORDER BY ID DESC
>
> If it is changed to this it works as expected:
> SELECT * FROM AlarmLogg WHERE Logg_avsluttet = FALSE AND
> Alarm_status='X' ORDER BY ID DESC
>
> After investigation (on a smaller dataset on my own database) I found
> that the query was resulting in a sequential scan:
>
> "explain analyze SELECT * FROM AlarmLogg WHERE Logg_avsluttet <> TRUE
> AND Alarm_status='X' ORDER BY ID DESC"
> "Sort  (cost=49936.96..49936.96 rows=1 width=405) (actual
> time=837.793..837.793 rows=0 loops=1)"
> "  Sort Key: id"
> "  Sort Method:  quicksort  Memory: 17kB"
> "  ->  Seq Scan on alarmlogg  (cost=0.00..49936.95 rows=1 width=405)
> (actual time=837.782..837.782 rows=0 loops=1)"
> "        Filter: ((logg_avsluttet <> true) AND ((alarm_status)::text =
> 'X'::text))"
> "Total runtime: 837.896 ms"
>
> The modified query gave this result:
> "explain analyze SELECT * FROM AlarmLogg WHERE Logg_avsluttet = FALSE
> AND Alarm_status='X' ORDER BY ID DESC"
> "Sort  (cost=8.36..8.37 rows=1 width=405) (actual time=0.032..0.032
> rows=0 loops=1)"
> "  Sort Key: id"
> "  Sort Method:  quicksort  Memory: 17kB"
> "  ->  Index Scan using i_alarmlogg_logg_avsluttet on alarmlogg
> (cost=0.00..8.35 rows=1 width=405) (actual time=0.024..0.024 rows=0
> loops=1)"
> "        Index Cond: (logg_avsluttet = false)"
> "        Filter: ((NOT logg_avsluttet) AND ((alarm_status)::text =
> 'X'::text))"
> "Total runtime: 0.123 ms"
>
> This is a dramatical difference, but I cannot understand why. In my head
> "<>TRUE" should behave exactly the same as "=FALSE". This looks like a
> bug to me, or am I overlooking something?
>
> This was verified on PostgreSQL 8.3.7, both on Windows Xp and Ubuntu 8.10.
>
> Some relevant details from the table definition:
> CREATE TABLE alarmlogg
> (
>    id serial NOT NULL,
>    alarm_status character varying(1) DEFAULT ''::character varying,
>    logg_avsluttet boolean DEFAULT false,
>    ...
>    CONSTRAINT alarmlogg_pkey PRIMARY KEY (id)
> )
>
> CREATE INDEX i_alarmlogg_alarm_status
>   ON alarmlogg
>   USING btree
>   (alarm_status);
>
> CREATE INDEX i_alarmlogg_logg_avsluttet
>   ON alarmlogg
>   USING btree
>   (logg_avsluttet);
>
> Regards,
> Jan-Ivar Mellingen
> Securinet AS
>
>
>

Thanks to all who answered my question and helped me discover that I
forgot to consider the NULL values.
After a cup of coffee and a little bit of thinking it became clear that
<>TRUE is not the same as FALSE, and the NULLS are not in the index.
PostgreSQL is a great database, but it does not hurt to think a little
when using it...
Thank You all!

/Jan-Ivar

Re: Huge speed penalty using <>TRUE instead of =FALSE

От
Robert Haas
Дата:
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Tom Lane<tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
> Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net> writes:
>> ... But again, this is data type specific knowledge.
>
> Actually, now that I think about it, the planner already has
> datatype-specific knowledge about boolean equality (see
> simplify_boolean_equality). =A0It would take just a few more lines of code
> there to recognize "x <> true" and "x <> false" as additional variant
> spellings of the generic "x" or "NOT x" constructs. =A0Not sure if it's
> worth the trouble though; how many people really write such things?

I don't know, but there's probably somebody.  I probably did it myself
a few times, when I was just starting out.  If it's easy, it seems
worth doing.  The problem with these things is that no matter how lame
it seems to do whatever-it-is, the pain when someone does is really
large...  so adding a little bit of code to avoid that seems
worthwhile, at least to me.

> If you really wanted to take it to extremes, you could also reduce
> cases like "x > false", but that's starting to get a bit silly.

Probably that one is beyond even my tolerance.

...Robert

Re: Huge speed penalty using <>TRUE instead of =FALSE

От
Tom Lane
Дата:
Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> writes:
> On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Tom Lane<tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
>> Actually, now that I think about it, the planner already has
>> datatype-specific knowledge about boolean equality (see
>> simplify_boolean_equality).  It would take just a few more lines of code
>> there to recognize "x <> true" and "x <> false" as additional variant
>> spellings of the generic "x" or "NOT x" constructs.  Not sure if it's
>> worth the trouble though; how many people really write such things?

> I don't know, but there's probably somebody.  I probably did it myself
> a few times, when I was just starting out.  If it's easy, it seems
> worth doing.

http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-committers/2009-07/msg00164.php

            regards, tom lane

Re: Huge speed penalty using <>TRUE instead of =FALSE

От
Robert Haas
Дата:
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Tom Lane<tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
> Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> writes:
>> On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Tom Lane<tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
>>> Actually, now that I think about it, the planner already has
>>> datatype-specific knowledge about boolean equality (see
>>> simplify_boolean_equality). =A0It would take just a few more lines of c=
ode
>>> there to recognize "x <> true" and "x <> false" as additional variant
>>> spellings of the generic "x" or "NOT x" constructs. =A0Not sure if it's
>>> worth the trouble though; how many people really write such things?
>
>> I don't know, but there's probably somebody. =A0I probably did it myself
>> a few times, when I was just starting out. =A0If it's easy, it seems
>> worth doing.
>
> http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-committers/2009-07/msg00164.php
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0regards, tom lane

Oh, cool.  Sorry, I missed the fact that that email was almost a month old.

...Robert