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Draft of 9.2 beta announcement, please revise/improve

От
Joshua Berkus
Дата:
All,

What follows is the first draft of the public announcement of version 9.2beta.  Please correct and help me improve the
languageof the announcement.  Note that, since our beta announcements tend to get picked up by the press, it's a bit
marketing-ish. That's on purpose. 

=========================

The PostgreSQL Global Development Group announces the beta release of PostgreSQL 9.2, the next release of the world's
mostadvanced relational database system.  Version 9.2 will include major improvements in performance, vertical and
horizontalscalability.  The PostgreSQL project asks all users to download and begin testing PostgreSQL 9.2 beta as soon
aspossible. 

Major performance and scalability advances ready to be tested in this version include:

* Index-only scans, allowing users to avoid expensive scans of slow-changing base tables
* Dramatially improved read-only workload scaling to 64 cores and over 300,000 queries per second
* Cascading replication, supporting rapid failover and geographically distributed standby databases

PostgreSQL 9.2 will also offer many new features for application developers, including:

* JSON data support, permitting building hybrid document-relational databases
* Range types, supporting new types of calendar, time-series and analytic applications
* Multiple improvments to make database migrations easier

For a full listing of the ready-to-test features in version 9.2 beta, please see the release notes [LINK].

We depend on our community test the next verson in order to guarantee that it is high-performance and bug-free.  Please
downloadPostgreSQL 9.2 Beta and try it with your workloads and applications as soon as you can, and give feedback to
thePostgreSQL developers.  More information on how to test and report issues in PostgreSQL is here [LINK]. 

PostgreSQL 9.2 beta, including binaries and installers for multiple platforms from our download page [LINK].  Full
documentationof the new version is available online [LINK] and installs with PostgreSQL. 



--
Josh Berkus
PostgreSQL Experts Inc.
http://pgexperts.com
San Francisco

Re: Draft of 9.2 beta announcement, please revise/improve

От
Adrian Klaver
Дата:
On 05/06/2012 01:19 PM, Joshua Berkus wrote:
> All,

>
> We depend on our community test the next verson in order to guarantee that it is high-performance and bug-free.
Pleasedownload PostgreSQL 9.2 Beta and try it with your workloads and applications as soon as you can, and give
feedbackto the PostgreSQL developers.  More information on how to test and report issues in PostgreSQL is here [LINK]. 
>
> PostgreSQL 9.2 beta, including binaries and installers for multiple platforms from our download page [LINK].

Only thing I can see is possibly change above to:

PostgreSQL 9.2 beta, including binaries and installers for multiple
platforms can be downloaded from here [LINK].

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Adrian Klaver
adrian.klaver@gmail.com

Re: Draft of 9.2 beta announcement, please revise/improve

От
Rob Napier
Дата:
Hi Josh


A few suggestions.

On 7/05/12 6:19 AM, "Joshua Berkus" <josh@agliodbs.com> wrote:

> All,
>
> What follows is the first draft of the public announcement of version 9.2beta.
> Please correct and help me improve the language of the announcement.  Note
> that, since our beta announcements tend to get picked up by the press, it's a
> bit marketing-ish.  That's on purpose.
>
> =========================
>
The PostgreSQL Global Development Group announces the beta release of
PostgreSQL 9.2. This new release continues to earn its title: "The world's
most advanced relational database system".

Version 9.2 includes major improvements in performance, as well as [or
'and'] vertical and horizontal scalability.

The PostgreSQL project invites users to download and begin testing this
beta release as soon as possible.

Major performance and scalability advances ready to be tested include:

* Index-only scans, allowing users to avoid expensive ['inefficient' or
'time-consuming'?] scans of slow-changing tables

* Dramatially improved read-only workload scaling to 64 cores and over
300,000 queries per second

* Cascading replication, supporting rapid failover and geographically
distributed standby databases

PostgreSQL 9.2 will also offer many new features for application developers,
including:

* JSON data support, allowing hybrid document-relational databases to be
built

* Range types, supporting new types of calendar, time-series and analytic
applications

* Several improvements that make migrations from other database easier

For a full listing of the ready-to-test features in version 9.2 beta, please
see the release notes [LINK].

We depend on our community to help test each verson ­ to guarantee that it
delivers high-performance and is bug-free.

Please download PostgreSQL 9.2 Beta and try it with your workloads and
applications as soon as you can, and give feedback to the PostgreSQL
developers.  More information on how to test and report issues in PostgreSQL
is here: [LINK]

PostgreSQL 9.2 beta, including binaries and installers for multiple
platforms from our download page: [LINK]

Full documentation for the new version is available on line [LINK] and
installs with PostgreSQL.


Regards

Rob Napier




Re: Draft of 9.2 beta announcement, please revise/improve

От
"Greg Sabino Mullane"
Дата:
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> in performance, vertical and horizontal scalability.

Reads awkward.

> Major performance and scalability advances ready to be tested in this version include:

s/ready to be tested//; ## Makes them sound very fragile and untested

> * JSON data support, permitting building hybrid document-relational databases
> * Range types, supporting new types of calendar, time-series and analytic applications
> * Multiple improvments to make database migrations easier

Can we add details to that last bullet? It's pretty vague in contrast
to the previous two.

> For a full listing of the ready-to-test features in version 9.2 beta

s/ready-to-test//;

> We depend on our community test the next verson in order to guarantee that
> it is high-performance and bug-free.

- From a marketing standpoint, that's a scary sentence.

/twocents

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Re: Draft of 9.2 beta announcement, please revise/improve

От
Peter Eisentraut
Дата:
I like it, except that beta/Beta is inconsistently capitalized, and the
are some spelling errors.

One request, though: If you include allusions to benchmark results,
please provide a link to the source.  You don't have to include it in
the announcement that is sent out, but keep it somewhere for those who
will have to answer questions to the press or the public about this.


On sön, 2012-05-06 at 15:19 -0500, Joshua Berkus wrote:
> All,
>
> What follows is the first draft of the public announcement of version 9.2beta.  Please correct and help me improve
thelanguage of the announcement.  Note that, since our beta announcements tend to get picked up by the press, it's a
bitmarketing-ish.  That's on purpose. 
>
> =========================
>
> The PostgreSQL Global Development Group announces the beta release of PostgreSQL 9.2, the next release of the world's
mostadvanced relational database system.  Version 9.2 will include major improvements in performance, vertical and
horizontalscalability.  The PostgreSQL project asks all users to download and begin testing PostgreSQL 9.2 beta as soon
aspossible. 
>
> Major performance and scalability advances ready to be tested in this version include:
>
> * Index-only scans, allowing users to avoid expensive scans of slow-changing base tables
> * Dramatially improved read-only workload scaling to 64 cores and over 300,000 queries per second
> * Cascading replication, supporting rapid failover and geographically distributed standby databases
>
> PostgreSQL 9.2 will also offer many new features for application developers, including:
>
> * JSON data support, permitting building hybrid document-relational databases
> * Range types, supporting new types of calendar, time-series and analytic applications
> * Multiple improvments to make database migrations easier
>
> For a full listing of the ready-to-test features in version 9.2 beta, please see the release notes [LINK].
>
> We depend on our community test the next verson in order to guarantee that it is high-performance and bug-free.
Pleasedownload PostgreSQL 9.2 Beta and try it with your workloads and applications as soon as you can, and give
feedbackto the PostgreSQL developers.  More information on how to test and report issues in PostgreSQL is here [LINK]. 
>
> PostgreSQL 9.2 beta, including binaries and installers for multiple platforms from our download page [LINK].  Full
documentationof the new version is available online [LINK] and installs with PostgreSQL. 
>
>
>
> --
> Josh Berkus
> PostgreSQL Experts Inc.
> http://pgexperts.com
> San Francisco
>




Re: Draft of 9.2 beta announcement, please revise/improve

От
Simon Riggs
Дата:
On 6 May 2012 21:19, Joshua Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com> wrote:

> Major performance and scalability advances ready to be tested in this version include:


Sounds good, thanks for taking the time to write that.

> * Index-only scans, allowing users to avoid expensive scans of slow-changing base tables

slow changing, yes, but also insert mostly tables is a very important case

> * Dramatially improved read-only workload scaling to 64 cores and over 300,000 queries per second

the write rate changes are very important also, need to mention those

> * Cascading replication, supporting rapid failover and geographically distributed standby databases

"rapid failover" code was not committed


there's no mention of
* Group Commit improvements
* Power reduction improvements - greatly reduced cost and reduced
environmental impact of running Postgres in virtual and cloud
environments

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 PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Training & Services

Re: Draft of 9.2 beta announcement, please revise/improve

От
Josh Berkus
Дата:
All,

Thank you so much for your improvements to the beta release
announcement!  I've incorporated everyone's feedback.  Some answers to
specific comments below.

==============================

The PostgreSQL Global Development Group announces the beta release of
PostgreSQL 9.2, the next release of the world's most advanced relational
database system.  Version 9.2 will include major improvements in
performance and both vertical and horizontal scalability.  The
PostgreSQL project asks all users to download and begin testing
PostgreSQL 9.2 Beta as soon as possible.

Major performance and scalability advances in this version include:

* Index-only scans, allowing users to avoid inefficient scans of base tables
* Enhanced read-only workload scaling to 64 cores and over 300,000
queries per second
* Improvements to data write speeds, including group commit
* Reductions in CPU power consumption
* Cascading replication, supporting geographically distributed standby
databases

PostgreSQL 9.2 will also offer many new features for application
developers, including:

* JSON data support, enabling hybrid document-relational databases
* Range types, supporting new types of calendar, time-series and
analytic applications
* Multiple improvements to ALTER and other statements, easing runtime
database updates

For a full listing of the features in version 9.2 Beta, please see the
release notes [LINK].

We depend on our community to help test the next version in order to
guarantee that it is high-performance and bug-free.  Please download
PostgreSQL 9.2 Beta and try it with your workloads and applications as
soon as you can, and give feedback to the PostgreSQL developers.  More
information on how to test and report issues in PostgreSQL is here [LINK].

PostgreSQL 9.2 beta, including binaries and installers for multiple
platforms from our download page [LINK].  Full documentation of the new
version is available online [LINK] and also installs with PostgreSQL.

===================

> One request, though: If you include allusions to benchmark results,
> please provide a link to the source.  You don't have to include it in
> the announcement that is sent out, but keep it somewhere for those who
> will have to answer questions to the press or the public about this.

Right.  This is Robert Haas's pgbench benchmark he used to test locking
improvements.

>> * Multiple improvments to make database migrations easier
>
> Can we add details to that last bullet? It's pretty vague in contrast
> to the previous two.

See above for clarification; I realized that "migrations" was a problem
word since what I meant was "schema migrations".  I don't want to list
each patch in detail, because it would be a long list.


--
Josh Berkus
PostgreSQL Experts Inc.
http://pgexperts.com