Обсуждение: Base Backups to a remote location

Hi,

i use the following script to backup servers every day to a remote location.

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REMOTE=xyz123.louis.info
DATE=`date +%Y%m%d%H%M%S`

ssh xyz123.louis.info "echo \"checkpoint; SELECT
pg_start_backup('${DATE}');\" |psql"

rsync -avxz  --numeric-ids --exclude-from=/backup1/config/excludes.txt
--delete-excluded --inplace --delete root@${REMOTE}:/
/mnt/backup1/remote/xyz123/full

ssh xyz123.louis.info "echo \"SELECT pg_stop_backup();\" |psql"

---snip---

i have some questions about this:
1. will this always work?
2. between these backups i do not save the archive logs, is this secure?
3. is it save to empty the archive directory befor i do a backup with
pg_start_backup()?

best Regards
Boris Bukowski

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Il 06/12/2013 11:05, Boris Bukowski ha scritto:
> Hi,
>
> i use the following script to backup servers every day to a remote
> location.
>
> ---snip--- REMOTE=xyz123.louis.info DATE=`date +%Y%m%d%H%M%S`
>
> ssh xyz123.louis.info "echo \"checkpoint; SELECT
> pg_start_backup('${DATE}');\" |psql"
>
> rsync -avxz  --numeric-ids
> --exclude-from=/backup1/config/excludes.txt --delete-excluded
> --inplace --delete root@${REMOTE}:/
> /mnt/backup1/remote/xyz123/full
>
> ssh xyz123.louis.info "echo \"SELECT pg_stop_backup();\" |psql"
>
> ---snip---
>
> i have some questions about this: 1. will this always work?

In principle, this could be enough. The important thing is to be sure
that WAL archiving is enabled and working before performing the
backup, configuring the 'archive_command' parameter. In this way,
archiving of these files happens automatically since you have already
configured archive_command and pg_stop_backup() does not return until
the last segment has been archived.
I just want to remark that pg_start_backup() already performs a
checkpoint: this is the reason it sometimes takes a significant period
of time. So you can omit it.

Just to make the script more readable, you can change the command

echo "SELECT pg_start_backup('${DATE}');" |psql

in

psql -c "SELECT pg_start_backup('${DATE}');"

> 2. between these backups i do not save the archive logs, is this
> secure?

What are you meaning? As I said before, you have to be sure that
'archive_command' is opportunely set, considering also a compression.

> 3. is it save to empty the archive directory befor i do a backup
> with pg_start_backup()?

This operation is quite awkward and it should be managed not "by hand"
but using pg_archivecleanup. You can find further info:

http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.0/static/pgarchivecleanup.html


As a usefull guide line, for backup issues you can take a look here:

http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.1/static/continuous-archiving.html


Giuseppe.
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PostgreSQL Training, Services and Support
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On 06.12.2013 12:49, Giuseppe Broccolo wrote:
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> Il 06/12/2013 11:05, Boris Bukowski ha scritto:
>> Hi,
>>
>> i use the following script to backup servers every day to a remote
>> location.
>>
>> ---snip--- REMOTE=xyz123.louis.info DATE=`date +%Y%m%d%H%M%S`
>>
>> ssh xyz123.louis.info "echo \"checkpoint; SELECT
>> pg_start_backup('${DATE}');\" |psql"
>>
>> rsync -avxz  --numeric-ids
>> --exclude-from=/backup1/config/excludes.txt --delete-excluded
>> --inplace --delete root@${REMOTE}:/
>> /mnt/backup1/remote/xyz123/full
>>
>> ssh xyz123.louis.info "echo \"SELECT pg_stop_backup();\" |psql"
>>
>> ---snip---
>>
>> i have some questions about this: 1. will this always work?
>
> In principle, this could be enough. The important thing is to be sure
> that WAL archiving is enabled and working before performing the
> backup, configuring the 'archive_command' parameter. In this way,
> archiving of these files happens automatically since you have already
> configured archive_command and pg_stop_backup() does not return until
> the last segment has been archived.
> I just want to remark that pg_start_backup() already performs a
> checkpoint: this is the reason it sometimes takes a significant period
> of time. So you can omit it.
>
> Just to make the script more readable, you can change the command
>
> echo "SELECT pg_start_backup('${DATE}');" |psql
>
> in
>
> psql -c "SELECT pg_start_backup('${DATE}');"
>
>> 2. between these backups i do not save the archive logs, is this
>> secure?
>
> What are you meaning? As I said before, you have to be sure that
> 'archive_command' is opportunely set, considering also a compression.
These are complete VM's with Webserver and Postgres. Once per day I
take a complete snapshot of everything and feed it in our backup system.

Is this enough to get my Database always up again or do i miss
something? Continuous Archiving is not my intention.

best Regards
Boris Bukowski

On Dec 6, 2013, at 7:43 AM, Boris Bukowski <bukowski@louis.info> wrote:

> Is this enough to get my Database always up again or do i miss something? Continuous Archiving is not my intention.

Yes. Configuring WAL archiving is only necessary if you're maintaining a replica via WAL shipping.

Now, of course, you haven't shown the contents of excludes.txt, so we have to assume that you're not excluding anything
necessary;-) 


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Hi Boris,

Il 06/12/2013 15:43, Boris Bukowski ha scritto:
> On 06.12.2013 12:49, Giuseppe Broccolo wrote:
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>> Il 06/12/2013 11:05, Boris Bukowski ha scritto:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> i use the following script to backup servers every day to a
>>> remote location.
>>>
>>> ---snip--- REMOTE=xyz123.louis.info DATE=`date +%Y%m%d%H%M%S`
>>>
>>> ssh xyz123.louis.info "echo \"checkpoint; SELECT
>>> pg_start_backup('${DATE}');\" |psql"
>>>
>>> rsync -avxz  --numeric-ids
>>> --exclude-from=/backup1/config/excludes.txt --delete-excluded
>>> --inplace --delete root@${REMOTE}:/
>>> /mnt/backup1/remote/xyz123/full
>>>
>>> ssh xyz123.louis.info "echo \"SELECT pg_stop_backup();\"
>>> |psql"
>>>
>>> ---snip---
>>>
>>> i have some questions about this: 1. will this always work?
>>
>> In principle, this could be enough. The important thing is to be
>> sure that WAL archiving is enabled and working before performing
>> the backup, configuring the 'archive_command' parameter. In this
>> way, archiving of these files happens automatically since you
>> have already configured archive_command and pg_stop_backup() does
>> not return until the last segment has been archived. I just want
>> to remark that pg_start_backup() already performs a checkpoint:
>> this is the reason it sometimes takes a significant period of
>> time. So you can omit it.
>>
>> Just to make the script more readable, you can change the
>> command
>>
>> echo "SELECT pg_start_backup('${DATE}');" |psql
>>
>> in
>>
>> psql -c "SELECT pg_start_backup('${DATE}');"
>>
>>> 2. between these backups i do not save the archive logs, is
>>> this secure?
>>
>> What are you meaning? As I said before, you have to be sure that
>> 'archive_command' is opportunely set, considering also a
>> compression.
> These are complete VM's with Webserver and Postgres. Once per day I
> take a complete snapshot of everything and feed it in our backup
> system.
>
> Is this enough to get my Database always up again or do i miss
> something? Continuous Archiving is not my intention.

Ok, now I understand what you were talking about. Continuous archiving
of WALs is needed in case of point-in-time recovery, starting from a
base backup. If you are just interested to a weekly backup, what you
are doing is enough.
Remember that backup contains a complete snapshot of your database at
the moment of the pg_start_backup() launch. If it takes time (as
explained in the previous mail), your snapshot is refered at the
moment of its start, not of its end! You should archive WALs during
this execution time to obtain a snapshot refered to the end of
pg_start_backup().

Giuseppe.
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Giuseppe Broccolo - 2ndQuadrant Italy
PostgreSQL Training, Services and Support
giuseppe.broccolo@2ndQuadrant.it | www.2ndQuadrant.it
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