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Hot standby having high requested checkpoints?

От
Brian Fehrle
Дата:
Hi all,

I have two PostgreSQL 9.0.5 clusters, one is a master and the other is a hot standby via streaming replication. I'm monitoring some stats on each and I'm noticing something very odd. On the master, I get between 2 and 4 requested checkpoints per hour, but on the hot standby I'm seeing between 200 and 300 requested checkpoints per hour.

Both boxes are the same specs, and have the same following config parameters:
             name             | setting
------------------------------+---------
 bgwriter_delay               | 200
 bgwriter_lru_maxpages        | 350
 bgwriter_lru_multiplier      | 2
 checkpoint_completion_target | 0.5
 checkpoint_segments          | 256
 checkpoint_timeout           | 1800



Is there any reason why I would be seeing this type of behavior on the hot standby? Is it the standard type of behavior on a hot standby that I'm only now noticing?

Thanks in advance,
- Brian F

Re: Hot standby having high requested checkpoints?

От
Fujii Masao
Дата:
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 7:53 AM, Brian Fehrle
<brianf@consistentstate.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have two PostgreSQL 9.0.5 clusters, one is a master and the other is a hot
> standby via streaming replication. I'm monitoring some stats on each and I'm
> noticing something very odd. On the master, I get between 2 and 4 requested
> checkpoints per hour, but on the hot standby I'm seeing between 200 and 300
> requested checkpoints per hour.

How did you get that information? Enable log_checkpoints?

Regards,

--
Fujii Masao
NIPPON TELEGRAPH AND TELEPHONE CORPORATION
NTT Open Source Software Center

Re: Hot standby having high requested checkpoints?

От
Brian Fehrle
Дата:
I am taking periodic snapshots from the system view 'pg_stat_bgwriter'
from both the master and the hot standby.

- Brian F

On 02/28/2012 09:22 PM, Fujii Masao wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 7:53 AM, Brian Fehrle
> <brianf@consistentstate.com>  wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I have two PostgreSQL 9.0.5 clusters, one is a master and the other is a hot
>> standby via streaming replication. I'm monitoring some stats on each and I'm
>> noticing something very odd. On the master, I get between 2 and 4 requested
>> checkpoints per hour, but on the hot standby I'm seeing between 200 and 300
>> requested checkpoints per hour.
> How did you get that information? Enable log_checkpoints?
>
> Regards,
>


Re: Hot standby having high requested checkpoints?

От
Fujii Masao
Дата:
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 12:14 AM, Brian Fehrle
<brianf@consistentstate.com> wrote:
> I am taking periodic snapshots from the system view 'pg_stat_bgwriter' from
> both the master and the hot standby.

You mean that you observed that pg_stat_bgwriter.checkpoints_timed in
the standby was larger than that in the master? I ran pgbench on streaming
replication and checked pg_stat_bgwriter, but I could not reproduce the
problem you encountered. pg_stat_bgwriter.checkpoints_timed in the
standby was equal to or one more than that in the master. Could you tell me
the self-contained test case?

Regards,

--
Fujii Masao
NIPPON TELEGRAPH AND TELEPHONE CORPORATION
NTT Open Source Software Center

Re: Hot standby having high requested checkpoints?

От
Simon Riggs
Дата:
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 10:53 PM, Brian Fehrle
<brianf@consistentstate.com> wrote:

> I have two PostgreSQL 9.0.5 clusters, one is a master and the other is a hot
> standby via streaming replication. I'm monitoring some stats on each and I'm
> noticing something very odd. On the master, I get between 2 and 4 requested
> checkpoints per hour, but on the hot standby I'm seeing between 200 and 300
> requested checkpoints per hour.

We don't do a restartpoint on the standby unless we see a checkpoint
record, so that result should be impossible.

So I'm guessing you're reading the stats wrong?

--
 Simon Riggs                   http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/
 PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Training & Services

Re: Hot standby having high requested checkpoints?

От
Brian Fehrle
Дата:
I just now ran the following query a few times after each other on the
hot standby:

select now(), * from pg_stat_bgwriter;

Here are the results:

               now              | checkpoints_timed | checkpoints_req |
buffers_checkpoint | buffers_clean | maxwritten_clean | buffers_backend
| buffers_alloc

-------------------------------+-------------------+-----------------+--------------------+---------------+------------------+-----------------+---------------
  2012-03-01 23:24:49.099194+00 |             11546 |          145300
|         1000409459 |      38483026 |           170724 |
5058186 |     438703950
  2012-03-01 23:24:52.139176+00 |             11546 |          145300
|         1000409459 |      38483027 |           170724 |
5058191 |     438703975
  2012-03-01 23:24:59.129171+00 |             11546 |          145302
|         1000409459 |      38483081 |           170724 |
5058214 |     438704438
  2012-03-01 23:25:05.957532+00 |             11546 |          145304
|         1000409459 |      38483118 |           170724 |
5058230 |     438704689
  2012-03-01 23:25:09.519175+00 |             11546 |          145305
|         1000409459 |      38483160 |           170724 |
5058239 |     438704968
  2012-03-01 23:25:37.019194+00 |             11546 |          145308
|         1000409459 |      38483259 |           170724 |
5058255 |     438705566
  2012-03-01 23:25:40.659164+00 |             11546 |          145308
|         1000409459 |      38483268 |           170724 |
5058257 |     438705639
  2012-03-01 23:25:47.239281+00 |             11546 |          145309
|         1000409459 |      38483283 |           170724 |
5058266 |     438705815
  2012-03-01 23:26:23.858716+00 |             11546 |          145312
|         1000409459 |      38483393 |           170724 |
5058307 |     438706561
  2012-03-01 23:26:46.467493+00 |             11546 |          145317
|         1000409670 |      38483524 |           170724 |
5058354 |     438707619

in two minutes, I saw 17 checkpoints_req, and the number of
buffers_checkpoint didn't budge till the last few and even then not much.

checkpoint_segments = 256

- Brian F

On 03/01/2012 01:35 AM, Simon Riggs wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 10:53 PM, Brian Fehrle
> <brianf@consistentstate.com>  wrote:
>
>> I have two PostgreSQL 9.0.5 clusters, one is a master and the other is a hot
>> standby via streaming replication. I'm monitoring some stats on each and I'm
>> noticing something very odd. On the master, I get between 2 and 4 requested
>> checkpoints per hour, but on the hot standby I'm seeing between 200 and 300
>> requested checkpoints per hour.
> We don't do a restartpoint on the standby unless we see a checkpoint
> record, so that result should be impossible.
>
> So I'm guessing you're reading the stats wrong?
>


Re: Hot standby having high requested checkpoints?

От
Brian Fehrle
Дата:
Anyone have any thoughts on why this may be happening?

thanks,
- Brian F
On 03/01/2012 04:38 PM, Brian Fehrle wrote:
> I just now ran the following query a few times after each other on the
> hot standby:
>
> select now(), * from pg_stat_bgwriter;
>
> Here are the results:
>
>               now              | checkpoints_timed | checkpoints_req |
> buffers_checkpoint | buffers_clean | maxwritten_clean |
> buffers_backend | buffers_alloc
>
-------------------------------+-------------------+-----------------+--------------------+---------------+------------------+-----------------+---------------

>
>  2012-03-01 23:24:49.099194+00 |             11546 |          145300
> |         1000409459 |      38483026 |           170724 |
> 5058186 |     438703950
>  2012-03-01 23:24:52.139176+00 |             11546 |          145300
> |         1000409459 |      38483027 |           170724 |
> 5058191 |     438703975
>  2012-03-01 23:24:59.129171+00 |             11546 |          145302
> |         1000409459 |      38483081 |           170724 |
> 5058214 |     438704438
>  2012-03-01 23:25:05.957532+00 |             11546 |          145304
> |         1000409459 |      38483118 |           170724 |
> 5058230 |     438704689
>  2012-03-01 23:25:09.519175+00 |             11546 |          145305
> |         1000409459 |      38483160 |           170724 |
> 5058239 |     438704968
>  2012-03-01 23:25:37.019194+00 |             11546 |          145308
> |         1000409459 |      38483259 |           170724 |
> 5058255 |     438705566
>  2012-03-01 23:25:40.659164+00 |             11546 |          145308
> |         1000409459 |      38483268 |           170724 |
> 5058257 |     438705639
>  2012-03-01 23:25:47.239281+00 |             11546 |          145309
> |         1000409459 |      38483283 |           170724 |
> 5058266 |     438705815
>  2012-03-01 23:26:23.858716+00 |             11546 |          145312
> |         1000409459 |      38483393 |           170724 |
> 5058307 |     438706561
>  2012-03-01 23:26:46.467493+00 |             11546 |          145317
> |         1000409670 |      38483524 |           170724 |
> 5058354 |     438707619
>
> in two minutes, I saw 17 checkpoints_req, and the number of
> buffers_checkpoint didn't budge till the last few and even then not much.
>
> checkpoint_segments = 256
>
> - Brian F
>
> On 03/01/2012 01:35 AM, Simon Riggs wrote:
>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 10:53 PM, Brian Fehrle
>> <brianf@consistentstate.com>  wrote:
>>
>>> I have two PostgreSQL 9.0.5 clusters, one is a master and the other
>>> is a hot
>>> standby via streaming replication. I'm monitoring some stats on each
>>> and I'm
>>> noticing something very odd. On the master, I get between 2 and 4
>>> requested
>>> checkpoints per hour, but on the hot standby I'm seeing between 200
>>> and 300
>>> requested checkpoints per hour.
>> We don't do a restartpoint on the standby unless we see a checkpoint
>> record, so that result should be impossible.
>>
>> So I'm guessing you're reading the stats wrong?
>>
>
>