Обсуждение: New postgres installation
Hello,
I want to do a new installation of postgres. I have version 8.2.3 and I want to go to 8.3.3. The postgres documentation says that the default location for the installation is /usr/local/pgsql. My installation has obviously been customized because I have no such path on my system. The documentation also says you can customize the location by including prefix = PREFIX in the ./configuration file. Is there a way I can tell what this customization was? There are several directories that contain many of the same files. I have several installations of postgres running on different servers. If this is anything like everything else I've seen there, quite possibly, is a different customization for each server.
Thank you very much,
Carol Walter
Carol Walter wrote: > Hello, > > I want to do a new installation of postgres. I have version 8.2.3 and > I want to go to 8.3.3. The postgres documentation says that the > default location for the installation is /usr/local/pgsql. My > installation has obviously been customized because I have no such path > on my system. The documentation also says you can customize the > location by including prefix = */PREFIX/* in the ./configuration file. > Is there a way I can tell what this customization was? There are > several directories that contain many of the same files. I have > several installations of postgres running on different servers. If > this is anything like everything else I've seen there, quite possibly, > is a different customization for each server. > > Thank you very much, > > Carol Walter > > What OS? How do you plan to install (source?, package-manager?) Do you need to save data from old installation? Do you have any client applications that need testing (or is this to test them)? There are a few changes that could bite you (changes to automatic casting and changed cluster syntax to name a couple). Cheers, Steve
I'm running Solaris 10. I'm not sure whether I'd compile source or use package manager. I haven't done enough research to know which one is right for us. I will be migrating my old data into the new version. I don't have any client apps that need testing - yet. In fact, I don't have any client applications. I'm in an academic environment. The databases I have on this server are largely student creations. There are two faculty research projects that are using this but one of them is closed down for now, and they other is one that I'm rewriting from ColdFusion to PHP, and it hasn't really started yet. That's part of my reason for wanting to do this now. We are between the last summer session and the start of the fall semester. This upgrade will effect very few people at this time. I just really want to put this back where the earlier one was, if I can. The faculty have syllabi that have paths and links in them that will confuse the students if things aren't where they expect. Carol On Aug 14, 2008, at 3:34 PM, Steve Crawford wrote: > Carol Walter wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I want to do a new installation of postgres. I have version 8.2.3 >> and I want to go to 8.3.3. The postgres documentation says that >> the default location for the installation is /usr/local/pgsql. My >> installation has obviously been customized because I have no such >> path on my system. The documentation also says you can customize >> the location by including prefix = */PREFIX/* in the ./ >> configuration file. Is there a way I can tell what this >> customization was? There are several directories that contain >> many of the same files. I have several installations of postgres >> running on different servers. If this is anything like everything >> else I've seen there, quite possibly, is a different customization >> for each server. >> Thank you very much, >> >> Carol Walter >> >> > What OS? > > How do you plan to install (source?, package-manager?) > > Do you need to save data from old installation? > > Do you have any client applications that need testing (or is this > to test them)? There are a few changes that could bite you (changes > to automatic casting and changed cluster syntax to name a couple). > > Cheers, > Steve >
Carol Walter wrote: > I'm running Solaris 10.... >>> I want to do a new installation of postgres. I have version 8.2.3 >>> and I want to go to 8.3.3.... There are pre-compiled binaries for Solaris at: http://www.postgresql.org/ftp/binary/v8.3.3/solaris/solaris10/ Within the appropriate architecture subdirectory, there is a README file that may get you pointed in the correct direction. Thus ends my expertise in installing PostgreSQL on Solaris 10. If you get stuck, (bottom)post a reply and I'm sure someone with Solaris expertise will jump in. Cheers, Steve
It been suggested that I download the binary and just go from there. All the documentation I've read says that for Unix installations should compile source. Would using the binary allow me to do the customization my site requires. I want to put the database in it's original location so that faculty won't have to change they're instructions to students. Carol PS Again, My OS is Solaris 10. On Aug 14, 2008, at 5:21 PM, Reed Loefgren wrote: > Carol Walter wrote: >> I'm running Solaris 10. I'm not sure whether I'd compile source >> or use package manager. I haven't done enough research to know >> which one is right for us. I will be migrating my old data into >> the new version. I don't have any client apps that need testing - >> yet. In fact, I don't have any client applications. I'm in an >> academic environment. The databases I have on this server are >> largely student creations. There are two faculty research >> projects that are using this but one of them is closed down for >> now, and they other is one that I'm rewriting from ColdFusion to >> PHP, and it hasn't really started yet. That's part of my reason >> for wanting to do this now. We are between the last summer >> session and the start of the fall semester. This upgrade will >> effect very few people at this time. I just really want to put >> this back where the earlier one was, if I can. The faculty have >> syllabi that have paths and links in them that will confuse the >> students if things aren't where they expect. >> >> Carol >> >> On Aug 14, 2008, at 3:34 PM, Steve Crawford wrote: >> >>> Carol Walter wrote: >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> I want to do a new installation of postgres. I have version >>>> 8.2.3 and I want to go to 8.3.3. The postgres documentation >>>> says that the default location for the installation is /usr/ >>>> local/pgsql. My installation has obviously been customized >>>> because I have no such path on my system. The documentation >>>> also says you can customize the location by including prefix = */ >>>> PREFIX/* in the ./configuration file. Is there a way I can tell >>>> what this customization was? There are several directories that >>>> contain many of the same files. I have several installations of >>>> postgres running on different servers. If this is anything like >>>> everything else I've seen there, quite possibly, is a different >>>> customization for each server. >>>> Thank you very much, >>>> >>>> Carol Walter >>>> >>>> >>> What OS? >>> >>> How do you plan to install (source?, package-manager?) >>> >>> Do you need to save data from old installation? >>> >>> Do you have any client applications that need testing (or is this >>> to test them)? There are a few changes that could bite you >>> (changes to automatic casting and changed cluster syntax to name >>> a couple). >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Steve >>> >> >> > Carol, > > I have never run Solaris, but you can probably find a pre-compiled > package of 8.3.3, and instructions on installing, over at > www.blastwave.com (.org?) They support opensolaris but might be > what you need anyway. That would cover the Solaris part, for the > postgresql part you'll need to look to the mailing lists or on usenet. > > Good luck, > > r
On Fri, 2008-08-15 at 09:44 -0400, Carol Walter wrote: > All the documentation I've read says that for Unix installations > should compile source. You're right. We should fix that so it also describes using pre-packaged options also. -- Simon Riggs www.2ndQuadrant.com PostgreSQL Training, Services and Support
Carol Walter wrote: > It been suggested that I download the binary and just go from there. > All the documentation I've read says that for Unix installations > should compile source. Would using the binary allow me to do the > customization my site requires. I want to put the database in it's > original location so that faculty won't have to change they're > instructions to students. > > Carol I think that your main question is can you put PG in the directory of your choice, if you compile. The answer is yes. If you look at chapter 15 of the Postgres Docs you will find this: (here's the link: http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.3/interactive/install-procedure.html ) 15.5. Installation Procedure Configuration The first step of the installation procedure is to configure the source tree for your system and choose the options you would like. This is done by running the configure script. For a default installation simply enter ./configure This script will run a number of tests to guess values for various system dependent variables and detect some quirks of your operating system, and finally will create several files in the build tree to record what it found. (You can also run configure in a directory outside the source tree if you want to keep the build directory separate.) The default configuration will build the server and utilities, as well as all client applications and interfaces that require only a C compiler. All files will be installed under /usr/local/pgsql by default. ***************************************** You can customize the build and installation process by supplying one or more of the following command line options to configure: --prefix=PREFIX Install all files under the directory PREFIX instead of /usr/local/pgsql. ************************************************** The actual files will be installed into various subdirectories; no files will ever be installed directly into the PREFIX directory. - - - etc etc You might also take a look at this: Best Practices with PostgreSQL on Solaris http://blogs.sun.com/jkshah/resource/pgsol_best_practices.pdf cheers, HH > > PS Again, My OS is Solaris 10. -- H. Hall ReedyRiver Group LLC http://www.reedyriver.com
H. Hall wrote: > Carol Walter wrote: >> It been suggested that I download the binary and just go from there. >> All the documentation I've read says that for Unix installations >> should compile source. Would using the binary allow me to do the >> customization my site requires. I want to put the database in it's >> original location so that faculty won't have to change they're >> instructions to students. >> >> Carol > I think that your main question is can you put PG in the directory of > your choice, if you compile. The answer is yes. > What student/faculty documentation includes the data directory location? I can see that being important for system administration but user access will be using a client via a local or network port - actual location of the files won't make any difference. Same with administrative tools like pg_dumpall. If file location is irrelevant to your users, you are free to select your installation method regardless of that method's file-location defaults. But you do need to be careful about accidentally having mixed versions of the client tools in different directories so that users could inadvertently use the old versions of psql, pg_dump, etc. (I did say "accidentally". If everyone is clued in, you can have multiple versions of PG running on the same machine. If not, you will be answering questions due to the unexpected behavior.) Cheers, Steve