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How do you upgrade for production servers?

От
Arnau
Дата:
Hi all,

   This is a general question about which procedure you follow when you
upgrade your productions servers. Let's say we have a server running and
older version and I want to install the latest version on the same
server. Do you install slony? do you dump all the databases, install the
latest version and after you restore? any other procedure? I'd like to
have my production server down as less time as possible.


Thank you very much and have a great new year :D
--
Arnau

Re: How do you upgrade for production servers?

От
"Andy Shellam (Mailing Lists)"
Дата:
If upgrading between minor versions in the same series (e.g. 8.1.3 -
8.1.5) you can simply use the same data directory.

However, if the major version changes (e.g. 8.1.x - 8.2.x), you must:

1. Dump the databases from your old server (preferably using the new
version client, I believe) while your old server is still running
2. Stop your old version
3. Start your new version
4. Restore the backup into your new version

For the minimum downtime, the best thing to do is get the 2 servers
running together (e.g. run your new version on port 5433) - then dump
your old database, stop your old server (so no updates can get in after
your backup), restore the backup into the new server, and restart your
new server on port 5432.  It all depends on how big your databases are,
and the length of time it'll take to restore your backup.

Happy New Year to you too.

Andy.

Arnau wrote:
> Hi all,
>
>   This is a general question about which procedure you follow when you
> upgrade your productions servers. Let's say we have a server running
> and older version and I want to install the latest version on the same
> server. Do you install slony? do you dump all the databases, install
> the latest version and after you restore? any other procedure? I'd
> like to have my production server down as less time as possible.
>
>
> Thank you very much and have a great new year :D


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Re: How do you upgrade for production servers?

От
"Gregory S. Williamson"
Дата:
Realistically you should include some time for testing ... a few things may fail to work (not many -- the core is quite
goodabout legacy issues, me thinks), but you may well run into some things that take longer to run that they used to.
ExplainAnalyze is your faithful companion, as is the performance list. Better to spend an extra day or two than start
gettingphone calls and pages, IMHO. SO do a trial run, hopefully test it with real queries for speed, desired results
andso on. (Generally we've found that newer versions do run faster but there are exceptions.) 

Greg Williamson
DBA
GlobeXplorer LLC


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Sent:    Fri 12/29/2006 4:42 AM
To:    arnaulist@andromeiberica.com; pgsql-admin@postgresql.org
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Subject:    Re: [ADMIN] How do you upgrade for production servers?

If upgrading between minor versions in the same series (e.g. 8.1.3 -
8.1.5) you can simply use the same data directory.

However, if the major version changes (e.g. 8.1.x - 8.2.x), you must:

1. Dump the databases from your old server (preferably using the new
version client, I believe) while your old server is still running
2. Stop your old version
3. Start your new version
4. Restore the backup into your new version

For the minimum downtime, the best thing to do is get the 2 servers
running together (e.g. run your new version on port 5433) - then dump
your old database, stop your old server (so no updates can get in after
your backup), restore the backup into the new server, and restart your
new server on port 5432.  It all depends on how big your databases are,
and the length of time it'll take to restore your backup.

Happy New Year to you too.

Andy.

Arnau wrote:
> Hi all,
>
>   This is a general question about which procedure you follow when you
> upgrade your productions servers. Let's say we have a server running
> and older version and I want to install the latest version on the same
> server. Do you install slony? do you dump all the databases, install
> the latest version and after you restore? any other procedure? I'd
> like to have my production server down as less time as possible.
>
>
> Thank you very much and have a great new year :D


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NetServe Support Team

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Re: How do you upgrade for production servers?

От
Jerry Sievers
Дата:
Arnau <arnaulist@andromeiberica.com> writes:

> Hi all,
>
>    This is a general question about which procedure you follow when
>    you upgrade your productions servers. Let's say we have a server
>    running and older version and I want to install the latest version
>    on the same server. Do you install slony? do you dump all the
>    databases, install the latest version and after you restore? any
>    other procedure? I'd like to have my production server down as less
>    time as possible.

From personal experience, the Slony aided upgrade between Postgres
major versions results in the least downtime.

The negatives are that if you've never worked with Slony before,
getting familiar with it and then R&D needed to make sure your upgrade
goes smoothly can be very time costly.

You also have to be comfortable with the substantial complexity that
Slony adds to the DB while in use.

Still if you have DBs that would take hours or days to load from dump
files, and business can't allow a service window for doing this, Slony
is the way.

I have a vague notion that someone was working on a contrib (maybe
unofficial) package for fast upgrade but you'll have to investigate.

HTH

> Thank you very much and have a great new year :D
> --
> Arnau
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Re: How do you upgrade for production servers?

От
Phillip Smith
Дата:
I install the new version to a new directory (eg, /usr/local/pg-8.2 ) then
start that server on a different port to the live server (eg, 54321), create
a new data directory (eg. /home/postgres/pgData-8.2) dump the live database,
import to the new database to make sure it's all good, then once I know
that's all good, I'll drop the live database back to "single user mode" using
pg_hba.conf, dump the database again, shutdown the old version, restart the
new version on the normal port, re-import the data then re-enable normal
access with pg_hba.conf

I have the advantage that our database generally isn't  accessed out of
 hours, so I have the luxury to be able to have the server offline for 30 -
 60 minutes while the second dump and import is happening. Depends how big
 your database is as to how long the server will be unavailable.

At least by installing the new version to a new directory and doing a test
import first lets me see how (if) the new version will affect the data
without having the live server offline.

Cheers,
-p

On Friday 29 December 2006 23:06, Arnau wrote:
> Hi all,
>
>    This is a general question about which procedure you follow when you
> upgrade your productions servers. Let's say we have a server running and
> older version and I want to install the latest version on the same
> server. Do you install slony? do you dump all the databases, install the
> latest version and after you restore? any other procedure? I'd like to
> have my production server down as less time as possible.
>
>
> Thank you very much and have a great new year :D

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