Обсуждение: Re: Firewall Locks Windows Version

Stephen McConnell schrieb:
> No Tino, PROFESSIONAL PROGRAMMING is an attitude.  I've been
> programming since 1974, both Open Source AND Paid Programming.  For the
> USAF, Private Industry and as an IBM Global Services Consultant and now
> on my own personal Open Source Project.
... yada yada...


well well... there was no childish comment unless you started with the
professinal programming in all caps. You use crappy OS and extend it
with even crappier third party software and then moan when things
start to get nasty ;) Its not Daves fault that gethostbyname() on
windows uses DNS subroutine when it has to look up a simple IP
address. Its also not the fault of Dave you have a strange configured
"personal firewall". Its just not Daves business. The application
works fine in the environment it was written for. There was
a bugreport and a fix for using unix sockets - which was really an
improvement.

I dont think adding a regex routine just to find out a shortcut
for translating a literal string which means an IP-address
is worth the effort - think that "professional programmers"
take efficiency in account. And adding a bunch of code just
for very very rare use cases for a function which should be
provided by the OS is rarely effective.

I wonder if windows telnet implementation works differently. I really
doubt it.

I'm sorry if I stepped on your feet.

Tino Wildenhain wrote:

> improvement.
> 
> I dont think adding a regex routine just to find out a shortcut
> for translating a literal string which means an IP-address
> is worth the effort - think that "professional programmers"
> take efficiency in account. And adding a bunch of code just
> for very very rare use cases for a function which should be
> provided by the OS is rarely effective.

This is the very single report of DNS lookup problems. Until we added 
extended information to FAQs, we had complaints about interrupted 
connections, caused by misconfigured firewalls. We won't change pgAdmins 
behaviour to catch bad installations, but continue to concentrate on 
_valuable_ coding. There's enough sensible stuff on the wish list.

Regards,
Andreas

Andreas Pflug schrieb:
> Tino Wildenhain wrote:
> 
>> improvement.
>>
>> I dont think adding a regex routine just to find out a shortcut
>> for translating a literal string which means an IP-address
>> is worth the effort - think that "professional programmers"
>> take efficiency in account. And adding a bunch of code just
>> for very very rare use cases for a function which should be
>> provided by the OS is rarely effective.
> 
> 
> This is the very single report of DNS lookup problems. Until we added 
> extended information to FAQs, we had complaints about interrupted 
> connections, caused by misconfigured firewalls. We won't change pgAdmins 
> behaviour to catch bad installations, but continue to concentrate on 
> _valuable_ coding. There's enough sensible stuff on the wish list.
> 

Ah, and btw. Skimming thru the code "read professinonalism" (we take
every hint seriously ;)) it appears libpq would be to blame for
calling gethostbyname(). This is even outside of Daves skope.

Regards
Tino

Tino Wildenhain wrote:
> 
> Ah, and btw. Skimming thru the code "read professinonalism" (we take
> every hint seriously ;)) it appears libpq would be to blame for
> calling gethostbyname(). This is even outside of Daves skope.

Yup, this is pgsql-hackers stuff. Or even better billg@microsoft.com. 
Please don't forget to post his answer here, we're curious :->

Regards,
Andreas

I have pgadminIII running on WinXP with no problems. I am using Computer  Associates EZfirewall and have the WinXP
firewallturned off. I also 
 
had norton firewall at one time, an it worked with it, but I had to turn 
off the winxp firewall.

Art

Tino Wildenhain wrote:
> Stephen McConnell schrieb:
> 
>> No Tino, PROFESSIONAL PROGRAMMING is an attitude.  I've been
>> programming since 1974, both Open Source AND Paid Programming.  For the
>> USAF, Private Industry and as an IBM Global Services Consultant and now
>> on my own personal Open Source Project.
> 
> ... yada yada...
> 
> 
> well well... there was no childish comment unless you started with the
> professinal programming in all caps. You use crappy OS and extend it
> with even crappier third party software and then moan when things
> start to get nasty ;) Its not Daves fault that gethostbyname() on
> windows uses DNS subroutine when it has to look up a simple IP
> address. Its also not the fault of Dave you have a strange configured
> "personal firewall". Its just not Daves business. The application
> works fine in the environment it was written for. There was
> a bugreport and a fix for using unix sockets - which was really an
> improvement.
> 
> I dont think adding a regex routine just to find out a shortcut
> for translating a literal string which means an IP-address
> is worth the effort - think that "professional programmers"
> take efficiency in account. And adding a bunch of code just
> for very very rare use cases for a function which should be
> provided by the OS is rarely effective.
> 
> I wonder if windows telnet implementation works differently. I really
> doubt it.
> 
> I'm sorry if I stepped on your feet.
> 
> 
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