Обсуждение: Re: [pgadmin-support] Automatic language selection

Peter Eisentraut wrote:

>Andreas Pflug wrote:
>
>
>To me this is not so much a question of functionality, it's a question
>of user interface design: don't bother the user with unnecessary
>questions.  The application works perfectly well with the default
>(system locale) language, and the vast majority of users probably never
>want to change it.  It's okay to have a menu entry to change the
>language (although personally I find it unnecessary), but you don't
>need to ask on startup.  Imagine if every GUI application you started
>asked for the language the first time.  You would never get any work
>done.  It's also not helped by the fact that normally Afrikaans is the
>default choice and you need to scroll around to find other popular
>languages.  I've seen people look at the pgAdmin language selection
>dialog and most were puzzled or annoyed ("Where is my language?", "Why
>does it have to ask this?", "Why can't pgAdmin work like the other
>apps?").
>
>
User's annoyance is a strong argument. How do the others think about that?

The initial message box is meant as something like installation
postprocessing.
For sure, the option to change language is very necessary. Many people
have different language installations from their native language. Think
of German sysadmins who like to install English OS versions (e.g. me,
esp. Windows, chance for support is much better), but might like to use
a localized tool.

Regards,
Andreas


Regards,
Andreas

Also, it could ask for a language selection, providing system locale as
default, and automatically choosing the default if no action is taken
within 10 seconds. I think this is the best approach (how arrogant of me
:)).

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Andreas Pflug wrote:

> Peter Eisentraut wrote:
>
>> Andreas Pflug wrote:
>>
>>
>> To me this is not so much a question of functionality, it's a
>> question of user interface design: don't bother the user with
>> unnecessary questions.  The application works perfectly well with the
>> default (system locale) language, and the vast majority of users
>> probably never want to change it.  It's okay to have a menu entry to
>> change the language (although personally I find it unnecessary), but
>> you don't need to ask on startup.  Imagine if every GUI application
>> you started asked for the language the first time.  You would never
>> get any work done.  It's also not helped by the fact that normally
>> Afrikaans is the default choice and you need to scroll around to find
>> other popular languages.  I've seen people look at the pgAdmin
>> language selection dialog and most were puzzled or annoyed ("Where is
>> my language?", "Why does it have to ask this?", "Why can't pgAdmin
>> work like the other apps?").
>>
>>
> User's annoyance is a strong argument. How do the others think about
> that?
>
> The initial message box is meant as something like installation
> postprocessing.
> For sure, the option to change language is very necessary. Many people
> have different language installations from their native language.
> Think of German sysadmins who like to install English OS versions
> (e.g. me, esp. Windows, chance for support is much better), but might
> like to use a localized tool.
>
> Regards,
> Andreas
>
>
> Regards,
> Andreas
>
>
>
>
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