Simon Riggs wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 6:35 PM, Joshua Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I am a yarn-dyed Ingres bigot I know, but Curt is a rent-seeking sack
>>> of do-do. Is it unfair to ask if his business practices remind
>>> one of a protection racket? Pay him a fat fee to speak kindly of
>>> your
>>> company or he will take the time to speak unkindly of it?) My
>>> contacts tell me he has previously approached Ingres Corp (now Actian Corp)
>>> for a fee and been sent packing.
>>>
>>> Aligning yourself with comments from Monash reflects poorly on you.
>>
>> I wasn't familiar with Mr. Monash before. My apologies for linking to him, then!
>
> What?!? I'm not sure any facts about Curt Monash have been established
> here, nor am I interested in seeing such debate here since it is
> clearly OT for this list, which concerns the efforts of people trying
> to generate *positive* support for the *PostgreSQL* database system.
Indeed.
> All we know for sure is that Roy Hann has made what are clearly
> unacceptable personal comments on our list and should be censured and
> possibly banned, not offered apologies, assistance and agreement from
> core team members who should know better.
I consider myself duly censured. It wasn't actually necessary for you
to know why I find Curt Monash an unsuitable inspiration, only that I
do. Having said that, I will assert that his article is not objective
and certainly wasn't intended to benefit the company or products in
question. Just why Monash would take the time to write such a thing
is, I think, open to a range of searching questions.
I will not back down over my claim that implicitly endorsing his attack
by referring to it and enlarging on it reflects badly on this community.
You don't need to do that; there are any number of good technical
reasons to suggest adopting PostgreSQL without bashing another
excellent product.
None of us come out this exchange looking our best. I apologize for my
part in it, and whether Joshua owes the Ingres community an apology or
not, I am delighted that he seems willing take a more objective view
of Monash.
Now, please do get back to *positively* promoting PostgreSQL. There is
work to be done by all of us.
--
Roy
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