Re: pgbench more operators & functions

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Fabien COELHO
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Re: pgbench more operators & functions
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alpine.DEB.2.20.1610051832050.20888@lancre
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pgbench more operators & functions Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: pgbench more operators & functions Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: pgbench more operators & functions Jeevan Ladhe <jeevan.ladhe@enterprisedb.com>
Re: pgbench more operators & functions Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: pgbench more operators & functions Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: pgbench more operators & functions Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: pgbench more operators & functions Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: pgbench more operators & functions Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: pgbench more operators & functions Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: pgbench more operators & functions Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: pgbench more operators & functions Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: pgbench more operators & functions Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: pgbench more operators & functions Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: pgbench more operators & functions Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: pgbench more operators & functions Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: pgbench more operators & functions Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: pgbench more operators & functions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: pgbench more operators & functions Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: pgbench more operators & functions Haribabu Kommi <kommi.haribabu@gmail.com>
Re: pgbench more operators & functions Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: [HACKERS] pgbench more operators & functions Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] pgbench more operators & functions Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] pgbench more operators & functions Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [HACKERS] pgbench more operators & functions Fabien COELHO <fabien.coelho@mines-paristech.fr>
Re: [HACKERS] pgbench more operators & functions Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] pgbench more operators & functions Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: [HACKERS] pgbench more operators & functions Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] pgbench more operators & functions Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: [HACKERS] pgbench more operators & functions Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [HACKERS] pgbench more operators & functions Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: [HACKERS] pgbench more operators & functions Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: [HACKERS] pgbench more operators & functions Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: [HACKERS] pgbench more operators & functions Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] pgbench more operators & functions Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: [HACKERS] pgbench more operators & functions Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] pgbench more operators & functions Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: [HACKERS] pgbench more operators & functions Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: [HACKERS] pgbench more operators & functions Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: [HACKERS] pgbench more operators & functions Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] pgbench more operators & functions Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: [HACKERS] pgbench more operators & functions Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: [HACKERS] pgbench more operators & functions Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: [HACKERS] pgbench more operators & functions Raúl Marín Rodríguez <rmrodriguez@carto.com>
Re: [HACKERS] pgbench more operators & functions Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: [HACKERS] pgbench more operators & functions Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: [HACKERS] pgbench more operators & functions Teodor Sigaev <teodor@sigaev.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] pgbench more operators & functions Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: [HACKERS] pgbench more operators & functions Teodor Sigaev <teodor@sigaev.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] pgbench more operators & functions Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: [HACKERS] pgbench more operators & functions Teodor Sigaev <teodor@sigaev.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] pgbench more operators & functions Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: [HACKERS] pgbench more operators & functions Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: [HACKERS] pgbench more operators & functions Teodor Sigaev <teodor@sigaev.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] pgbench more operators & functions Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: [HACKERS] pgbench more operators & functions Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: [HACKERS] pgbench more operators & functions Teodor Sigaev <teodor@sigaev.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] pgbench more operators & functions Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [HACKERS] pgbench more operators & functions Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: [HACKERS] pgbench more operators & functions Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: [HACKERS] pgbench more operators & functions Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] pgbench more operators & functions Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] pgbench more operators & functions Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: [HACKERS] pgbench more operators & functions Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] pgbench more operators & functions Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: [HACKERS] pgbench more operators & functions David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Re: pgbench more operators & functions Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: [HACKERS] pgbench more operators & functions Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: [HACKERS] pgbench more operators & functions Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: pgbench more operators & functions Haribabu Kommi <kommi.haribabu@gmail.com>
Re: pgbench more operators & functions Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: [HACKERS] pgbench more operators & functions "David G. Johnston" <david.g.johnston@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] pgbench more operators & functions Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [HACKERS] pgbench more operators & functions Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: pgbench more operators & functions Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: [HACKERS] pgbench more operators & functions Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: pgbench more operators & functions Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com>
Re: pgbench more operators & functions Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: pgbench more operators & functions Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: pgbench more operators & functions Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: pgbench more operators & functions Jeevan Ladhe <jeevan.ladhe@enterprisedb.com>
Re: pgbench more operators & functions Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: pgbench more operators & functions Jeevan Ladhe <jeevan.ladhe@enterprisedb.com>
Re: pgbench more operators & functions Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: pgbench more operators & functions Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: pgbench more operators & functions Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com>
Re: pgbench more operators & functions Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: pgbench more operators & functions Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: pgbench more operators & functions Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: pgbench more operators & functions Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: pgbench more operators & functions Fabien COELHO <fabien.coelho@mines-paristech.fr>
Re: pgbench more operators & functions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: pgbench more operators & functions "David G. Johnston" <david.g.johnston@gmail.com>

Hello Tom,

>> (2) The benchmark specification requires the client application to get
>> hold of query results, which are currently discarded by pgbench, so
>> pgbench does not really comply. I have submitted a patch to do that, see:
>
> I find this completely bogus.  The data is delivered to the client,
> ie it's inside the pgbench process.

Hmmm... It is delivered to libpq, and the client discards it... In a 
benchmarking context I think that this is not exactly the same:

For instance, one could implement a library protocol that would tell that 
the result is ready without actually transfering the result, getting a 
slight benefit by not doing so.

In order to avoid that kind of doubtful optimization, the benchmark 
requires that the final balance is returned to the "test driver", which is 
the client application, and not some subsystem linked to the database. I 
think that this is a pretty sensible requirement.

Moreover, the teller's branch must be used in some case, not sure how to 
do that without getting this value out anyway...

> What's the grounds for arguing that something else has to happen to it?

In my view the "ground" is the benchmarking specification which wants to 
ensure that the tester/implementers/vendors cannot cheat to get better 
than deserved performance results...

-- 
Fabien.


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