Re: Perf Benchmarking and regression.

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Fabien COELHO
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Re: Perf Benchmarking and regression.
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в 19:10:23
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alpine.DEB.2.10.1605122047050.32634@sto
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Perf Benchmarking and regression. Mithun Cy <mithun.cy@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Perf Benchmarking and regression. Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Perf Benchmarking and regression. Mithun Cy <mithun.cy@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Perf Benchmarking and regression. Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Perf Benchmarking and regression. Ashutosh Sharma <ashu.coek88@gmail.com>
Re: Perf Benchmarking and regression. Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Perf Benchmarking and regression. Ashutosh Sharma <ashu.coek88@gmail.com>
Re: Perf Benchmarking and regression. Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Perf Benchmarking and regression. Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Perf Benchmarking and regression. Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Perf Benchmarking and regression. Ashutosh Sharma <ashu.coek88@gmail.com>
Re: Perf Benchmarking and regression. Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Perf Benchmarking and regression. Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Perf Benchmarking and regression. Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Perf Benchmarking and regression. Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Perf Benchmarking and regression. Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Perf Benchmarking and regression. Ashutosh Sharma <ashu.coek88@gmail.com>
Re: Perf Benchmarking and regression. Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: Perf Benchmarking and regression. Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Perf Benchmarking and regression. Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: Perf Benchmarking and regression. Ashutosh Sharma <ashu.coek88@gmail.com>
Re: Perf Benchmarking and regression. Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Perf Benchmarking and regression. Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Perf Benchmarking and regression. Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Perf Benchmarking and regression. Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Perf Benchmarking and regression. Noah Misch <noah@leadboat.com>
Re: Perf Benchmarking and regression. Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Perf Benchmarking and regression. Noah Misch <noah@leadboat.com>
Re: Perf Benchmarking and regression. Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Perf Benchmarking and regression. Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Perf Benchmarking and regression. Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: Perf Benchmarking and regression. Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Perf Benchmarking and regression. Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Perf Benchmarking and regression. Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Perf Benchmarking and regression. Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Perf Benchmarking and regression. Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Perf Benchmarking and regression. Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Perf Benchmarking and regression. Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Perf Benchmarking and regression. Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Perf Benchmarking and regression. Noah Misch <noah@leadboat.com>
Re: Perf Benchmarking and regression. Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Perf Benchmarking and regression. Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Perf Benchmarking and regression. Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Perf Benchmarking and regression. Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Perf Benchmarking and regression. Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Perf Benchmarking and regression. Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: Perf Benchmarking and regression. Noah Misch <noah@leadboat.com>
Re: Perf Benchmarking and regression. Noah Misch <noah@leadboat.com>
Re: Perf Benchmarking and regression. Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Perf Benchmarking and regression. Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Perf Benchmarking and regression. Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Perf Benchmarking and regression. Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com>
Re: Perf Benchmarking and regression. Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Perf Benchmarking and regression. Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com>
Re: Perf Benchmarking and regression. Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Perf Benchmarking and regression. Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com>

>> I'm getting increasingly unhappy about the checkpoint flush control.
>> I saw major regressions on my parallel COPY test, too:
>
> Yes, I'm concerned too.

A few thoughts:
 - focussing on raw tps is not a good idea, because it may be a lot of tps   followed by a sync panic, with an unresponsive database. I wish the   performance reports would include some indication of the distribution   (eg min/q1/median/d3/max tps per second seen, standard deviation), not   just the final "tps" figure.
 - checkpoint flush control (checkpoint_flush_after) should mostly always   beneficial because it flushes sorted data. I would be surprised   to see significant regressions with this on. A lot of tests showed   maybe improved tps, but mostly greatly improved performance stability,   where a database unresponsive 60% of the time (60% of seconds in the   the tps show very low or zero tps) and then becomes always responsive.
 - other flush controls ({backend,bgwriter}_flush_after) may just increase   random writes, so are more risky in nature because the data is not   sorted, and it may or may not be a good idea depending on detailed   conditions. A "parallel copy" would be just such a special IO load   which degrade performance under these settings.
   Maybe these two should be disabled by default because they lead to   possibly surprising regressions?
 - for any particular load, the admin can decide to disable these if   they think it is better not to flush. Also, as suggested by Andres,   with 128 parallel queries the default value may not be appropriate   at all.

-- 
Fabien.


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