Re: Enquiry about TDE with PgSQL

On Mon, Nov  3, 2025 at 10:07:50AM -0800, Adrian Klaver wrote:
> On 11/3/25 8:59 AM, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov  3, 2025 at 08:20:21AM -0800, Adrian Klaver wrote:
> > > On 11/3/25 08:01, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Nov  3, 2025 at 04:39:45PM +0100, rainer@ultra-secure.de wrote:
> > > > > Am 2025-11-03 16:08, schrieb Bruce Momjian:
> > > 
> 
> > > Again a distinction without a difference.
> > > 
> > > If you go here:
> > > 
> > > https://www.postgresql.org/community/contributors/
> > > 
> > > and look at the names under Core Team and Major Contributors, out of 59
> > > names only 6 do not list a company name. Companies live at the heart of the
> > > community. Hence the the policy of no company having no more then 50%(?) of
> > > the Core team.
> > 
> > The issue is that interacting with external companies is rarely done by
> > the community, so if you need to get community software to interact with
> > external software, the external software vendor has to get involved with
> > the community, and for non-Postgres-focused external companies, that is
> > a big hurdle.  Companies have many employees who can make it their job
> > to get the integration working, as has happened with the many
> > company-controlled Postgres TDE solutions.
> 
> To be specific it is a customer service issue.
> 
> So why is this page:
> 
> https://www.postgresql.org/support/professional_support/
> 
> "Commercial support is available from many different companies providing
> professional services to the PostgreSQL community."
> 
> not a solution done by the community?

I am not sure why you are not understanding.  To get Postgres to
interoperate with company product X, you need communication between the
Postgres community and the company producing product X.  The community
rarely interacts directly with companies, though it does interact with
employees of Postgres-focused companies.  The smaller the company and
the less the company relies on Postgres, the less likely the company
will interact with the community on the community's terms.

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