Re: Re: Timestamp with vs without time zone.

On 2021-09-21 13:34:21 -0400, Dave Cramer wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Sept 2021 at 13:20, Peter J. Holzer <hjp-pgsql@hjp.at> wrote:
>     On 2021-09-21 20:50:44 +1200, Tim Uckun wrote:
>     > It's just that the phrase "timestamp with time zone" would seem to
>     > indicate the time zone is stored somewhere in there.
>
>     I absolutely agree. Calling a type which doesn't include a timezone
>     "timestamp with timezone" is - how do I put this? - more than just
>     weird. "timestamp without timezone" should be called "local timestamp
>     with unspecified timezone" and "timestamp with timezone" should be
>     called "global timestamp without timezone". However, those aren't SQL
>     names.
>
>
>
> I would say this is a perspective thing. It's a timestamp with a time
> zone from the client's perspective.

I disagree. When I read back the value the original timezone is lost. So
it clearly DOESN'T store the timestamp WITH the timezone.

        hp

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