Re: [HACKERS] destroydb doesn't close connection with client (httpd <-> pg)

On Sat, 12 Jun 1999, Tom Lane wrote:

> Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 16:04:30 -0400
> From: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
> To: Oleg Bartunov <oleg@sai.msu.su>
> Cc: hackers@postgreSQL.org
> Subject: Re: [HACKERS] destroydb doesn't close connection with client (httpd <-> pg) 
> 
> Oleg Bartunov <oleg@sai.msu.su> writes:
> > I don't know is it DBI/DBD problem or backend must close
> > all connections to DB when it destroyed.
> 
> You cannot destroy a DB while there are backends connected to it;
> all hell breaks loose if you do.  See thread "How to destroy your entire
> Postgres installation" in pg-hackers in late Sept. 1998.

I did it without any problem :-)

> 
> The correct fix is to add an interlock that prevents "destroydb" when
> there are connected backends.  I don't know just how that might be done,
> however.

I'm not sure preventing "destroydb" is a good idea. Imagine some
user connects to db (via psql) and hold it for a weekend.
You will not be able to do some dbadmin work ? 
What's wrong if backend close connection, cleanup buffers etc.
and inform client that db was destroyed. Client could decide  -
exit or try to reestablish connection. If you recreate that db 
nothing will happens. 

> 
> There should be a TODO item for this, but I don't see one:
>   * Prevent destroydb when there are backends active in that database

The problem would be worse in case of 24*7 life-cycle of Web-database 
connectivity if you decide "prevent destroydb" feature !
I prefer to allow destroydb but close all active connections with
this db and inform client. Client will decide what to do.
As I understand DBI/DBD is already ready for such behaivour because
it has ping method. I'm no sure about psql.
Oleg

> 

>             regards, tom lane
> 

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