Re: Security lessons from liblzma

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Daniel Gustafsson
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Re: Security lessons from liblzma
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[MASSMAIL]Security lessons from liblzma Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Security lessons from liblzma Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Security lessons from liblzma Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Security lessons from liblzma Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Security lessons from liblzma Joe Conway <mail@joeconway.com>
Re: Security lessons from liblzma Joe Conway <mail@joeconway.com>
Re: Security lessons from liblzma Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Security lessons from liblzma Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Security lessons from liblzma Joe Conway <mail@joeconway.com>
Re: Security lessons from liblzma Devrim Gündüz <devrim@gunduz.org>
Re: Security lessons from liblzma Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Security lessons from liblzma Joe Conway <mail@joeconway.com>
Re: Security lessons from liblzma Michael Banck <mbanck@gmx.net>
Re: Security lessons from liblzma Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Security lessons from liblzma Michael Banck <mbanck@gmx.net>
Re: Security lessons from liblzma Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Security lessons from liblzma Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: Security lessons from liblzma walther@technowledgy.de
Re: Security lessons from liblzma "David E. Wheeler" <david@justatheory.com>
Re: Security lessons from liblzma Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Security lessons from liblzma Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Security lessons from liblzma Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Security lessons from liblzma Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Security lessons from liblzma Devrim Gündüz <devrim@gunduz.org>
Re: Security lessons from liblzma Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Security lessons from liblzma Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Security lessons from liblzma Joe Conway <mail@joeconway.com>
Re: Security lessons from liblzma Daniel Gustafsson <daniel@yesql.se>
Re: Security lessons from liblzma Peter Eisentraut <peter@eisentraut.org>
Re: Security lessons from liblzma Greg Sabino Mullane <htamfids@gmail.com>
Re: Security lessons from liblzma Daniel Gustafsson <daniel@yesql.se>
Re: Security lessons from liblzma Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Security lessons from liblzma Daniel Gustafsson <daniel@yesql.se>
Re: Security lessons from liblzma Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Security lessons from liblzma Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Security lessons from liblzma Daniel Gustafsson <daniel@yesql.se>
Re: Security lessons from liblzma Jelte Fennema-Nio <postgres@jeltef.nl>
Re: Security lessons from liblzma Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Security lessons from liblzma Daniel Gustafsson <daniel@yesql.se>
Re: Security lessons from liblzma Jelte Fennema-Nio <postgres@jeltef.nl>
Re: Security lessons from liblzma Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Security lessons from liblzma Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Security lessons from liblzma Daniel Gustafsson <daniel@yesql.se>
Re: Security lessons from liblzma Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Security lessons from liblzma Jacob Champion <jacob.champion@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Security lessons from liblzma Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Security lessons from liblzma Jacob Champion <jacob.champion@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Security lessons from liblzma Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Security lessons from liblzma - libsystemd Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Security lessons from liblzma - libsystemd Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Security lessons from liblzma - libsystemd Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Security lessons from liblzma - libsystemd Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Security lessons from liblzma - libsystemd Peter Eisentraut <peter@eisentraut.org>
Re: Security lessons from liblzma - libsystemd Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Security lessons from liblzma - libsystemd Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Security lessons from liblzma - libsystemd Étienne BERSAC <etienne.bersac@dalibo.com>
Re: Security lessons from liblzma - libsystemd Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Security lessons from liblzma Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com>
Re: Security lessons from liblzma Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
> On 4 Apr 2024, at 22:47, Tom Lane  wrote:
> 
> Robert Haas  writes:
>> On Thu, Apr 4, 2024 at 4:25 PM Daniel Gustafsson  wrote:
>>> I don't disagree, like I said that very email: it's non-trivial and I wish we
>>> could make it better somehow, but I don't hav an abundance of good ideas.
> 
>> Is the basic issue that we can't rely on the necessary toolchain to be
>> present on every machine where someone might try to build PostgreSQL?
> 
> IIUC, it's not really that, but that regenerating these files is
> expensive; multiple seconds even on fast machines.  Putting that
> into tests that are run many times a day is unappetizing.

That's one aspect of it.  We could cache the results of course to amortize the
cost over multiple test-runs but at the end of the day it will add time to
test-runs regardless of what we do.

One thing to consider would be to try and rearrange/refactor the tests to
require a smaller set of keys and certificates.  I haven't looked into what
sort of savings that could yield (if any) but if we go the route of
regeneration at test-time we shouldn't leave potential savings on the table.

--
Daniel Gustafsson



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