Re: Logging corruption error codes

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От Andrey Borodin
Тема Re: Logging corruption error codes
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Msg-id E14AD04A-A800-4D39-BA1F-64B5619F76D2@yandex-team.ru
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Ответ на Re: Logging corruption error codes  (Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>)
Ответы Re: Logging corruption error codes  (Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com>)
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Please find attached patch v2: added a little more cases with corruption.

> 25 июля 2019 г., в 23:27, Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie> написал(а):
>
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 3:45 AM Andrey Borodin <x4mmm@yandex-team.ru> wrote:
>> From my POV these messages provide meaningful information to cope with corruption. But they are definitely internal.
>> Translations already provide some information on toast chunks, mentions btree many times times and many other
internalthings. 
>> So, I'm confused about status of these messages.
>> Such messages should be rare enough and those to whom they are addressed should be familiar with English.
>
> I agree that these don't need to be translated, which means you must
> use errmsg_internal() with ereport(). A message like "failed to
> re-find parent key in index..." doesn't mean anything to more than a
> tiny number of experts. It is useful only because you can paste in
> into a search engine. Users will want to search for the English string
> anyway.
We already have translations for messages like "index \"%s\" is not a btree" and "version mismatch in index \"%s\":
fileversion %d, ". 
Personally, I agree that we should try to make these messages googlable in mailing lists. Marking them errmsg_internal
willdiscard some work of translators. 
So I haven't marked them internal in this version.

>> This causes various data corruptions, always undetected by data checksums (do we want Merkle tree?).
>
> I don't think that it's possible to verify the integrity of multiple
> page images without amcheck support for the access method. It might be
> possible to do slightly more in a generic way, but I doubt it.

Well, if you have a fork with LSNs of each page - you can guarantee that that you do not have stale version of single
page.And you can have cheap block-level incremental backups, fast catchup of standbys etc. But this comes at a cost.
Anyway,it's a discussion for another thread. 

>> Besides messages in this patch we also had:
>> could not read block 1751 in file "base/16452/358336": Bad address  // Probably mostly not only data corruption, but
hardwarefault 
>> t_xmin is uncommitted in tuple to be updated // Probably on-disk corruption
>> failed to re-find parent key in index // Probably index corruption
>> left link changed unexpectedly in block // Probably on-disk data corruption
>> right sibling 45056 of block * is not next child * of block * in index // Definitely index corruption
>>
>> Should I add corruption codes for these messages in the patch? Or make a separate discussion about these?
>
> I don't think that we need to worry too much about the difference
> between data corruption and a hardware fault that could theoretically
> self-correct. There is a cost to making fine distinctions like this in
> the errcodes we use.

Currently, that case with "could not read block" is marked by errcode_for_file_access(). I think that this code is
betterthan corruption error code.. 

Thanks!

Best regards, Andrey Borodin.

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