Re: [HACKERS] Pluggable storage

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От Haribabu Kommi
Тема Re: [HACKERS] Pluggable storage
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Msg-id CAJrrPGd+1v+w8mhuvg2vkv0UiYHcsg7rgx_VE1R5XhaM75Brig@mail.gmail.com
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Ответ на Re: [HACKERS] Pluggable storage  (Alexander Korotkov <a.korotkov@postgrespro.ru>)
Ответы Re: [HACKERS] Pluggable storage  (Haribabu Kommi <kommi.haribabu@gmail.com>)
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On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 11:53 PM, Alexander Korotkov <a.korotkov@postgrespro.ru> wrote:
On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 4:08 PM, Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 8:00 PM, Alexander Korotkov
<a.korotkov@postgrespro.ru> wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 10:47 PM, Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 9:50 PM, Haribabu Kommi
>> <kommi.haribabu@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Open Items:
>> >
>> > 1. The BitmapHeapScan and TableSampleScan are tightly coupled with
>> > HeapTuple and HeapScanDesc, So these scans are directly operating
>> > on those structures and providing the result.
>> >
>> > These scan types may not be applicable to different storage formats.
>> > So how to handle them?
>>
>> I think that BitmapHeapScan, at least, is applicable to any table AM
>> that has TIDs.   It seems to me that in general we can imagine three
>> kinds of table AMs:
>>
>> 1. Table AMs where a tuple can be efficiently located by a real TID.
>> By a real TID, I mean that the block number part is really a block
>> number and the item ID is really a location within the block.  These
>> are necessarily quite similar to our current heap, but they can change
>> the tuple format and page format to some degree, and it seems like in
>> many cases it should be possible to plug them into our existing index
>> AMs without too much heartache.  Both index scans and bitmap index
>> scans ought to work.
>
>
> If #1 is only about changing tuple and page formats, then could be much
> simpler than the patch upthread?  We can implement "page format access
> methods" with routines for insertion, update, pruning and deletion of tuples
> *in particular page*.  There is no need to redefine high-level logic for
> scanning heap, doing updates and so on...

If you are changing tuple format then you do need to worry about
places wherever we are using HeapTuple like TupleTableSlots,
Visibility routines, etc. (just think if somebody changes tuple
header, then all such places are susceptible to change).

Agree.  I think that we can consider pluggable tuple format as an independent feature which is desirable to have before pluggable storages.  For example, I believe some FDWs could already have benefit from pluggable tuple format. 

Accepting multiple tuple format is possible with complete replacement of
HeapTuple with TupleTableSlot or something like value/null array
instead of a single memory chunk tuple data.

Currently I am working on it to replace the HeapTuple with TupleTableSlot
in the upper layers once the tuples is returned from the scan. In most of the
places where the HeapTuple is present, either replace it with TupleTableSlot
or change it to StorageTuple (void *).

I am yet to evaluate whether it is possible to support as an independent feature
without the need of some heap format function to understand the tuple format
in every place.

Regards,
Hari Babu
Fujitsu Australia

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