Re: Repeatable read transaction doesn't see dropped table
От | Daniil Davydov |
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Тема | Re: Repeatable read transaction doesn't see dropped table |
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Msg-id | CAJDiXgjYgdt4FED6GGQ5J5COsE+b=v5jriZaV2xaVBdXjd2JYA@mail.gmail.com обсуждение исходный текст |
Ответ на | Re: Repeatable read transaction doesn't see dropped table ("David G. Johnston" <david.g.johnston@gmail.com>) |
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On Mon, Dec 23, 2024 at 3:17 PM David G. Johnston <david.g.johnston@gmail.com> wrote: > The quoted section describes how two consecutive select queries will see the same data. Your example shows how a singlequery behaves in isolation. The “as the first query saw it” is fundamentally important since until it successfullyexecutes there are no locks being held restricting the changing of non-data structural aspects of the database. In short, the snapshot doesn’t include an object until it is requested. It’s a repeatable read, not a frozen point-in-timeread. The performance implications for the later would be unacceptable. > > Thus, the behavior is expected and needed as-is; but I would say that the concurrency control chapter of the documentationis one of the harder to actually learn and understand. It is a challenging topic, so I get why. In its defense,the commentary surrounding the regarding control record and detail does try to make this distinction clear to thereader. YMMV as to its effectiveness in this regard. > > David J. > Thank you for your comments. OK, I agree that there are no contradictions from the point of view of the source code. But essentially, snapshot is just a range of xids, and we must not see changes of transactions that started after the snapshot was taken. As far as I understand, documentation says that repeatable read transactions take a snapshot at first non-transaction-control statement, and this snapshot remains relevant for all statements within the transaction. My example shows that the second session sees changes that have been made by a transaction that started after snapshot creation (and it sees them only because of cache optimization). It might be unexpected behavior for users. I also agree that taking it into account will reduce performance, but maybe we can clarify this aspect in documentation (?) -- Best regards, Daniil Davydov
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