Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold.
От
Peter Geoghegan
Тема
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold.
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CAH2-WzkCOuPP3FWNhUD9h6cH_53vcupozpBdbydgpUezivv6fA@mail.gmail.com
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Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. (Peter Geoghegan)
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[HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Kuntal Ghosh <kuntalghosh.2007@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. "Ideriha, Takeshi" <ideriha.takeshi@jp.fujitsu.com>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Re: GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Re: GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Kyotaro HORIGUCHI <horiguchi.kyotaro@lab.ntt.co.jp>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Kyotaro HORIGUCHI <horiguchi.kyotaro@lab.ntt.co.jp>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Kyotaro HORIGUCHI <horiguchi.kyotaro@lab.ntt.co.jp>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Kyotaro HORIGUCHI <horiguchi.kyotaro@lab.ntt.co.jp>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Sokolov Yura <y.sokolov@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Darafei Praliaskouski <me@komzpa.net>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Pavel Golub <pavel@microolap.com>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Sokolov Yura <y.sokolov@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Kyotaro HORIGUCHI <horiguchi.kyotaro@lab.ntt.co.jp>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Alexander Korotkov <a.korotkov@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Alexander Korotkov <a.korotkov@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Alexander Korotkov <a.korotkov@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Alexander Korotkov <a.korotkov@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Darafei "Komяpa" Praliaskouski <me@komzpa.net>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Alexander Korotkov <a.korotkov@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Alexander Korotkov <a.korotkov@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Alexander Korotkov <a.korotkov@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Alexander Korotkov <a.korotkov@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Alexander Korotkov <a.korotkov@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Alexander Korotkov <a.korotkov@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Darafei "Komяpa" Praliaskouski <me@komzpa.net>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Alexander Korotkov <a.korotkov@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Alexander Korotkov <a.korotkov@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Alexander Korotkov <a.korotkov@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Kyotaro HORIGUCHI <horiguchi.kyotaro@lab.ntt.co.jp>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Kyotaro HORIGUCHI <horiguchi.kyotaro@lab.ntt.co.jp>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Kyotaro HORIGUCHI <horiguchi.kyotaro@lab.ntt.co.jp>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Kyotaro HORIGUCHI <horiguchi.kyotaro@lab.ntt.co.jp>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Claudio Freire <klaussfreire@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Alexander Korotkov <a.korotkov@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Alexander Korotkov <a.korotkov@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Alexander Korotkov <a.korotkov@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Alexander Korotkov <a.korotkov@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Teodor Sigaev <teodor@sigaev.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Kyotaro HORIGUCHI <horiguchi.kyotaro@lab.ntt.co.jp>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Teodor Sigaev <teodor@sigaev.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Kyotaro HORIGUCHI <horiguchi.kyotaro@lab.ntt.co.jp>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Alexander Korotkov <a.korotkov@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Alexander Korotkov <a.korotkov@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Claudio Freire <klaussfreire@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Kyotaro HORIGUCHI <horiguchi.kyotaro@lab.ntt.co.jp>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Claudio Freire <klaussfreire@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Kyotaro HORIGUCHI <horiguchi.kyotaro@lab.ntt.co.jp>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Claudio Freire <klaussfreire@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: [HACKERS] GUC for cleanup indexes threshold. Kuntal Ghosh <kuntalghosh.2007@gmail.com>
On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 11:37 AM, Peter Geoghegan wrote: > Please verify my understanding of your thought process: We don't have > to freeze indexes at all, ever, so if we see index bloat as a separate > problem, we also see that there is no need to *link* index needs to > the need for freezing. XID burn rate is a very bad proxy for how > bloated an index may be. Besides, we already have a separate trigger > for the thing that *actually* matters to indexes (the vacuum threshold > stuff). Another thing I wonder about: It would be okay to use the number of unset freeze map bits as a reasonable proxy for how much bloat is in the index the first time we vacuum. But, don't we then set the freeze map bits, losing any record of having skipped indexes? What mechanism exists that allows back-pressure to actually *build up* over many vacuum anti-wraparound cycles, so that we slowly but surely get around to actually vacuuming indexes at some point? -- Peter Geoghegan
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