Re: Min value for port

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От Christopher Browne
Тема Re: Min value for port
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Msg-id CAFNqd5UR7HVSbJ2mYYc3X0wwbQ+y12=wR3xyMZBJnguhc0px4w@mail.gmail.com
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Ответ на Re: Min value for port  (Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>)
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On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 9:22 AM, Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com> wrote:
On 2013-06-27 15:11:26 +0200, Magnus Hagander wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 2:16 PM, Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net> wrote:
> > On 6/27/13 6:34 AM, Magnus Hagander wrote:
> >> Is there a reason why we have set the min allowed value for port to 1,
> >> not 1024? Given that you can't actually start postgres with a value of
> >> <1024, shoulnd't the entry in pg_settings reference that as well?
> >
> > Are you thinking of the restriction that you need to be root to use
> > ports <1024?  That restriction is not necessarily universal.  We can let
> > the kernel tell us at run time if it doesn't like our port.
>
> Yes, that's the restriction I was talking about. It's just a bit
> annoying that if you look at pg_settings.min_value it doesn't actually
> tell you the truth. But yeah, I believe Windows actually lets you use
> a lower port number, so it'd at least have to be #ifdef'ed for that if
> we wanted to change it.

You can easily change the setting on linux as well. And you can grant
specific binaries the permission to bind to restricted ports without
being root.
I don't think the additional complexity to get a sensible value in there
is warranted.

With that large a set of local policies that can change the "usual
< 1024" policy, yep, I agree that it's not worth trying too hard on this one.

And supposing something like SE-Linux can grant bindings for a particular
user/binary to access a *specific* port, that represents a model that is
pretty incompatible with the notion of a "minimum value."

On the one hand, the idea of having to add a lot of platform-specific
code (which may further be specific to a framework like SE-Linux)
is not terribly appealing.

Further, if the result is something that doesn't really fit with a "minimum,"
is it much worth fighting with the platform localities?

Indeed, I begin to question whether indicating a "minimum" is actually
meaningful.
--
When confronted by a difficult problem, solve it by reducing it to the
question, "How would the Lone Ranger handle this?"

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