Re: pg_rewind vs superuser

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От Magnus Hagander
Тема Re: pg_rewind vs superuser
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Msg-id CABUevEyj5SvU-LW=R3i3+uQg-pqY5KxN_9BuwsmObWaPWf4hhQ@mail.gmail.com
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Ответ на Re: pg_rewind vs superuser  (Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>)
Ответы Re: pg_rewind vs superuser  (Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>)
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On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 1:05 PM Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz> wrote:
On Fri, Apr 05, 2019 at 10:39:26AM +0200, Michael Banck wrote:
> Ok, so the problem is that that checkpoint might be still ongoing when
> you quickly issue a pg_rewind from the other side?

The end-of-recovery checkpoint may not have even begun.

So can we *detect* that this is the case? Because if so, we could perhaps just wait for it to be done? Because there will always be one?

The main point is -- we know from experience that it's pretty fragile to assume the user read the documentation :) So if we can find *any* way to handle this in code rather than docs, that'd be great. We would still absolutely want the docs change for back branches of course.


> I think it might be useful to specify more exactly which of the two
> servers (the remote one AIUI) needs a CHECKPOINT in the above. Also, if
> it is the case that a CHECKPOINT is done automatically (see above), that
> paragraph could be rewritten to say something like "pg_rewind needs to
> wait for the checkoint on the remote server to finish. This can be
> ensured by issueing an explicit checkpoint on the remote server prior to
> running pg_rewind."

Well, the target server needs to be cleanly shut down, so it seems
pretty clear to me which one needs to have a checkpoint :)

Clear to you and us of course, but quite possibly not to everybody. I'm sure there are a *lot* of users out there who do not realize that "cleanly shut down" means "ran a checkpoint just before it shut down".


> Finally, (and still, if I got the above correctly), to the suggestion of
> Magnus of pg_rewind running the checkpoint itself on the remote: would
> that again mean that pg_rewind needs SUPERUSER rights or is there
> a(nother) GRANTable function that could be added to the list in this
> case?

pg_rewind would require again a superuser.  So this could be

Ugh, you are right of course.

 
optional.  In one HA workflow I maintain, what I actually do is to
enforce directly a checkpoint immediately after the promotion is done
to make sure that the data is up-to-date, and I don't meddle with
pg_rewind workflow.

Sure. And every other HA setup also has to take care of it. That's why it would make sense to centralize it into the tool itself when it's *mandatory* to deal with it somehow. 

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