Re: Online base backup from the hot-standby

On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 04:50, Fujii Masao <masao.fujii@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2011/9/13 Jun Ishiduka <ishizuka.jun@po.ntts.co.jp>:
>>
>> Update patch.
>>
>> Changes:
>>  * set 'on' full_page_writes by user (in document)
>>  * read "FROM: XX" in backup_label (in xlog.c)
>>  * check status when pg_stop_backup is executed (in xlog.c)
>
> Thanks for updating the patch.
>
> Before reviewing the patch, to encourage people to comment and
> review the patch, I explain what this patch provides:
>
> This patch provides the capability to take a base backup during recovery,
> i.e., from the standby server. This is very useful feature to offload the
> expense of periodic backups from the master. That backup procedure is
> similar to that during normal running, but slightly different:
>
> 1. Execute pg_start_backup on the standby. To execute a query on the
>   standby, hot standby must be enabled.
>
> 2. Perform a file system backup on the standby.
>
> 3. Copy the pg_control file from the cluster directory on the standby to
>    the backup as follows:
>
>    cp $PGDATA/global/pg_control /mnt/server/backupdir/global

But this is done as part of step 2 already. I assume what this really
means is that the pg_control file must be the last file backed up?

(Since there are certainly a lot other ways to do the backup than just
cp to a mounted directory..)


> 4. Execute pg_stop_backup on the standby.
>
> The backup taken by the above procedure is available for an archive
> recovery or standby server.
>
> If the standby is promoted during a backup, pg_stop_backup() detects
> the change of the server status and fails. The data backed up before the
> promotion is invalid and not available for recovery.
>
> Taking a backup from the standby by using pg_basebackup is still not
> possible. But we can relax that restriction after applying this patch.

I think that this is going to be very important, particularly given
the requirements on pt 3 above. (But yes, it certainly doesn't have to
be done as part of this patch, but it really should be the plan to
have this included in the same version)


> To take a base backup during recovery safely, some sort of parameters
> must be set properly. Hot standby must be enabled on the standby, i.e.,
> wal_level and hot_standby must be enabled on the master and the standby,
> respectively. FPW (full page writes) is required for a base backup,
> so full_page_writes must be enabled on the master.

Presumably pg_start_backup() will check this. And we'll somehow track
this before pg_stop_backup() as well? (for such evil things such as
the user changing FPW from on to off and then back to on again during
a backup, will will make it look correct both during start and stop,
but incorrect in the middle - pg_stop_backup needs to fail in that
case as well)

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