Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction
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Amit Kapila
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Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction
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CAA4eK1LFiyWgmEukYEHb7b73124Ev+KeFrJq5dPR7K27ACsQkw@mail.gmail.com
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Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction (Tom Lane)
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Scaling shared buffer eviction Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
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Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
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Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Kevin Grittner <kgrittn@ymail.com>
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Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
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Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Kevin Grittner <kgrittn@ymail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Gregory Smith <gregsmithpgsql@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Mark Kirkwood <mark.kirkwood@catalyst.net.nz>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Ants Aasma <ants@cybertec.at>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Gregory Smith <gregsmithpgsql@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Gregory Smith <gregsmithpgsql@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Gregory Smith <gregsmithpgsql@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnakangas@vmware.com>
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Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
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Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnakangas@vmware.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnakangas@vmware.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Ants Aasma <ants@cybertec.at>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnakangas@vmware.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Thom Brown <thom@linux.com>
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Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Thom Brown <thom@linux.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Mark Kirkwood <mark.kirkwood@catalyst.net.nz>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Mark Kirkwood <mark.kirkwood@catalyst.net.nz>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Mark Kirkwood <mark.kirkwood@catalyst.net.nz>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Mark Kirkwood <mark.kirkwood@catalyst.net.nz>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Peter Geoghegan <pg@heroku.com>
Re: Scaling shared buffer eviction Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 8:40 PM, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
> Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com> writes:
> > Another point is I think it will be better to protect
> > StrategyControl->completePasses with victimbuf_lck rather than
> > freelist_lck, as when we are going to update it we will already be
> > holding the victimbuf_lck and it doesn't make much sense to release
> > the victimbuf_lck and reacquire freelist_lck to update it.
>
> I'm rather concerned by this cavalier assumption that we can protect
> fields a,b,c with one lock and fields x,y,z in the same struct with some
> other lock.
In some cases, it could be beneficial especially when a,b,c are
> Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com> writes:
> > Another point is I think it will be better to protect
> > StrategyControl->completePasses with victimbuf_lck rather than
> > freelist_lck, as when we are going to update it we will already be
> > holding the victimbuf_lck and it doesn't make much sense to release
> > the victimbuf_lck and reacquire freelist_lck to update it.
>
> I'm rather concerned by this cavalier assumption that we can protect
> fields a,b,c with one lock and fields x,y,z in the same struct with some
> other lock.
In some cases, it could be beneficial especially when a,b,c are
going to be more frequently accessed as compare to x,y,z.
> A minimum requirement for that to work safely at all is that the fields
> are of atomically fetchable/storable widths; which might be okay here
> but it's a restriction that bears thinking about (and documenting).
>
> But quite aside from safety, the fields are almost certainly going to
> be in the same cache line which means contention between processes that
> are trying to fetch or store them concurrently.
> A minimum requirement for that to work safely at all is that the fields
> are of atomically fetchable/storable widths; which might be okay here
> but it's a restriction that bears thinking about (and documenting).
>
> But quite aside from safety, the fields are almost certainly going to
> be in the same cache line which means contention between processes that
> are trying to fetch or store them concurrently.
I think patch will reduce the contention for some of such variables
(which are accessed during clock sweep) as it will minimize the need
to perform clock sweep by backends.
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