On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 11:51 AM Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 11:34 AM Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
> > Note that either case would also involve making entries in pg_shdepend;
> > although for the case of roles owned by/granted to the bootstrap
> > superuser, we could omit those on the usual grounds that we don't need
> > to record dependencies on pinned objects.
>
> That makes sense to me, but it still doesn't solve the problem of
> agreeing on role ownership vs. WITH ADMIN OPTION vs. something else.
Notwithstanding the lack of agreement on that point, I believe that
what we should do for v15 is remove the session user
self-administration exception. We have pretty much established that it
was originally introduced in error. It later was found to be a
security vulnerability, and that resulted in the exception being
narrowed without removing it altogether. While there are differences
of opinion on what the larger plan here ought to be, nobody's proposal
plan involves retaining that exception. Neither has anyone offered a
plausible use case for the current behavior, so there's no reason to
think that removing it would break anything.
However, it might. And if it does, I think it would be best if
removing that exception were the *only* change in this area made by
that release. If for v16 or v17 or v23 we implement Plan Tom or Plan
Stephen or Plan Robert or something else, and along the way we remove
that self-administration exception, we're going to have a real fire
drill if it turns out that the self-administration exception was
important for some reason we're not seeing right now. If, on the other
hand, we remove that exception in v15, then if anything breaks, it'll
be a lot easier to deal with. Worst case scenario we just revert the
removal of that exception, which will be a very localized change if
nothing else has been done that depends heavily on its having been
removed.
So I propose to commit something like what I posted here:
http://postgr.es/m/CA+TgmobgeK0JraOwQVPqhSXcfBdFitXSomoebHMMMhmJ4gLonw@mail.gmail.com
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Robert Haas
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