On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 10:11 AM Yura Sokolov <y.sokolov@postgrespro.ru> wrote:
> I see analogy with Bus Stop:
> - there is bus stop
> - there is a schedule of bus arriving this top
> - there are passengers, who every day travel with this bus
>
> Bus occasionally comes later... Well, it comes later quite often...
>
> Which way Major (or other responsible person) should act?
I do not think that is a good analogy, because a bus schedule is an
implicit promise - or at least a strong suggestion - that the bus will
arrive at the scheduled time.
In this case, who made such a promise? The original post presents it
as fact that these systems should give compatible answers at all
times, but there's nothing in the code or documentation to suggest
that this is true.
IMHO, a better analogy would be if you noticed that the 7:03am bus was
normally blue and you took that one because you have a small child who
likes the color blue and it makes them happy to take a blue bus. And
then one day the bus at that time is a red bus and your child is upset
and you call the major (or other responsible person) to complain.
They're probably not going to handle that situation by trying to send
a blue bus at 7:03am as often as possible. They're going to tell you
that they only promised you a bus at 7:03am, not what color it would
be.
Perhaps that's not an ideal analogy either, because the reported wait
event and the reported activity are more closely related than the time
of a bus is to the color of the bus. But I think it's still true that
nobody ever promised that those values would be compatible with each
other, and that's not really fixable, and that there are lots of other
cases just like this one which can't be fixed either.
I think that the more we try to pretend like it is possible to make
these values seem like they are synchronized, the more unhappy people
will be in the unavoidable cases where they aren't, and the more
pressure there will be to try to tighten it up even further. That's
likely to result in code that is more complex and slower, which I do
not want, and especially not for the sake of avoiding a harmless
reporting discrepancy.
--
Robert Haas
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